> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov <vas at sibptus.ru> wrote: > > Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be > affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he > start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP root folder, and > then go on using Mac Mail. I hope that's what he has done.There is a bug in Mail.app that it always assumes / as hierarchy separator and completely ignores server provided separator. Not sure if anyone has created BUG to Apple about this. Atleast I have not. Sami
14. 10. 2020 v 12:24, Sami Ketola <sami at ketola.io>:> >> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov <vas at sibptus.ru> wrote: >> >> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be >> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he >> start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP root folder, and >> then go on using Mac Mail. I hope that's what he has done. > > There is a bug in Mail.app that it always assumes / as hierarchy separator and > completely ignores server provided separator. > > Not sure if anyone has created BUG to Apple about this. Atleast I have not. > > Sami >So hm, I actually re-read the original post, and this is pretty weird, because I had to change the Dovecot separator from '/' to '.' in order to make macOS clients work with subfolders properly. I never had this problem myself because only use folders, not subfolders. And it was pointed to me by another user, who relies on subfolders and had problems for some time - *maybe* from since around the time she upgraded to Catalina. -F
On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola <sami at ketola.io> wrote:> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov <vas at sibptus.ru> wrote: >> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be >> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he >> start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP root folder, and >> then go on using Mac Mail. I hope that's what he has done.> There is a bug in Mail.app that it always assumes / as hierarchy separator and > completely ignores server provided separator.Cite? Because no, that is not my experience at all. From my maildir on my FreeBSD server: # ls -lnd .root* drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 05:16 .root drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 02:02 .root.44 drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 02:02 .root.Cron drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 05:16 .root.Hastur ? etc Works fine in Mail.app on Mac OS and has for at least 16 years. -- I'm not old, I'm chronologically challenged.
> On 14. Oct 2020, at 14.20, @lbutlr <kremels at kreme.com> wrote: > > On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola <sami at ketola.io> wrote: >> On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov <vas at sibptus.ru> wrote: >>> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be >>> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he >>> start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP root folder, and >>> then go on using Mac Mail. I hope that's what he has done. > >> There is a bug in Mail.app that it always assumes / as hierarchy separator and >> completely ignores server provided separator. > > Cite? Because no, that is not my experience at all. > > From my maildir on my FreeBSD server: > > # ls -lnd .root* > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 05:16 .root > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 02:02 .root.44 > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 02:02 .root.Cron > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 05:16 .root.Hastur > ? etc > > Works fine in Mail.app on Mac OS and has for at least 16 years.I just tested it with my Dovecot 2.2.36 setup. I did set up an account with '.' as separator and created some folders. First mail.app succeeded in creating test root folder but when I tried to create subfolder 'test2' under 'test' Mail.app issued CREATE "test/test2" folder instead of "test.test2". And then failed to list the created folder completely. Everything worked if I did set separator to '/' Sami
@lbutlr wrote:> On 14 Oct 2020, at 04:24, Sami Ketola <sami at ketola.io> wrote: > > On 14. Oct 2020, at 12.51, Victor Sudakov <vas at sibptus.ru> wrote: > >> Those Mac clients who do not use nested folders do not seem to be > >> affected. That is, I've already suggested to the Mac Mail user that he > >> start Thunderbird, move all his mailboxes into the IMAP root folder, and > >> then go on using Mac Mail. I hope that's what he has done. > > > There is a bug in Mail.app that it always assumes / as hierarchy separator and > > completely ignores server provided separator. > > Cite? Because no, that is not my experience at all.Cannot site a bug, can only site a users's complaint: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/8347018> > From my maildir on my FreeBSD server: > > # ls -lnd .root* > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 05:16 .root > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 02:02 .root.44 > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 02:02 .root.Cron > drwx------ 5 89 89 512 Oct 14 05:16 .root.Hastur > ? etc > > Works fine in Mail.app on Mac OS and has for at least 16 years.-- Victor Sudakov, VAS4-RIPE, VAS47-RIPN 2:5005/49 at fidonet http://vas.tomsk.ru/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 455 bytes Desc: not available URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20201014/d28756f9/attachment-0001.sig>