Zenaan Harkness
2019-Sep-12 11:14 UTC
Gnu sieve vs Dovecot sieve-filter - sieve-filter extremely slow at lda (writing emails to local mbox files)
(I did subscribe to this mailing list, albeit with zen at freedbms.net, so either way I'm getting all your emails - thank you -so- much for replying...) MUA is mutt, reading email in a terminal (sorry, forgot to mention this before). For many years now my email folder (mbox files) collection has grown to many GiB, mostly mailing lists. If I am to change email storage format, it should be mutt compatible; looking at https://wiki2.dovecot.org/MailboxFormat I see that only DJB's Maildir is compatible with both Dovecot ("a reliable choice" says the wiki), and mutt. I can imagine that sdbox or mdbox could be made "mutt compatible" so to speak, by running some sort of local IMAP server, and accessing my email from mutt that way; this is undesirable to my mind because this would require: 1) a new learning curve wrt mutt and reading email on IMAP servers 2) a new learning curve to set up a local IMAP server (securely) 3) the inability to use mutt without a local IMAP server to read my local email but such a setup would also have some quite desirable benefits: 1) once set up, multiple MUAs could be used, and I'd have a beginning grasp on setting up an IMAP server and front ends (this is something on my bucket list, to assist my local church with) 2) simpler remote "online" access to my local "offline" email store (e.g. using my mobile phone when on the road) by setting up a webmail server (much simpler (read "possible" to use on a mobile phone) than using a vpn and mutt...), thus freeing me up from the behemoth web email providers... Next, I do not know how to "pipe the messages to the dovecot lda". After downloading from my POP3 provider into a local mbox file (this is my step 1), then I sort the emails (this is my step 2): the following should be on a single line: /usr/bin/sieve-filter -veW -c $HOME/etc/email/sieve-dovecot-config.conf -o mail_location=mbox:~/mail:INBOX=~/mail/Inbox:INDEX=:UTF-8:VOLATILEDIR=/tmp/dovecot-volatile/%2.256Nu/%u:SUBSCRIPTIONS=dovecot_subscriptions ~/etc/email/sieve.rc email-incoming-unsorted As you can see from the above command, sieve-filter is given the name of the mbox ("mail folder") to sort, as its very last argument on the command line - so in this instance, sieve-filter really has no excuse, and should be not be re-reading the sieve rules script for each email - now perhaps that's not happening, I only made an assumption because of a CPU hitting 100% for a minute or two just to process a few 100 emails... What could also be happening (again, an assumption), is that sieve-filter is written to assume dovecot index files to be in existence. I disabled those with the "INDEX=" clause you see in the command above, which obviously has been given no value. The reason I figured out how to disable the creation of the indexes in the .imap directories, is that for my setup, Gnu sieve has proven that I should not need such indexes - with mbox files, just append each email to the end of the target "mailbox folder" mbox file, and we're done! This literally should not cost 100% CPU, even for one millisecond! But more importantly, because my working email folder is ~30GiB, without disabling this index creation step, sieve-filter forced the creation of indexes, which "took so long I gave up and hit CTRL-C, which did not work, so I kill -9'ed the sieve-filter and whatever other process was not stopping". Last year someone on debian-user recommended I upgrade to using Dovecot/Pigeonhole's sieve-filter (rather than Gnu sieve) due to the issues with Gnu sieve. I am starting to think that I should perhaps try to figure out if it's possible to (re)process the emails Gnu sieve has a problem with, to massage them into a shape that Gnu sieve accepts - then my immediate problem would certainly be solved... Thank you all again.. Zenaan
Zenaan Harkness
2019-Sep-12 11:21 UTC
Gnu sieve vs Dovecot sieve-filter - sieve-filter extremely slow at lda (writing emails to local mbox files)
Oh, one last bit for now regarding pipeing: Given my current sieve-filter command: MLOC="mail_location=mbox:~/mail:INBOX=~/mail/Inbox:INDEX=:UTF-8:VOLATILEDIR=/tmp/dovecot-volatile/%2.256Nu/%u:SUBSCRIPTIONS=dovecot_subscriptions" SCRIPT=~/etc/email/sieve.rc sieve-filter -veWD -c $SIEVE_CONF -o $MLOC $SCRIPT emails-incoming I can imagine trying to do a pipe as suggested, like follows: cat ~/mail/emails-incoming | sieve-filter -veW -c $SIEVE_CONF -o $MLOC $SCRIPT But, I see no suggestion in the sieve-filter man page that this would work. ISTM that sieve-filter just is not designed to work in a local mbox email environment.