On 2/12/19 1:57 PM, Aki Tuomi wrote:> >> On 12 February 2019 at 20:52 Robert Moskowitz via dovecot < >> dovecot at dovecot.org <mailto:dovecot at dovecot.org>> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> On 2/12/19 1:03 PM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: >> Dovecot keeps the quota current, although dict quota has been known >> to be bit bad at this. >>> We nowadays recommend using count quota instead and use quota_clone >>> to copy the quota state to database. It is more accurate. >> And how is this recommendation implemented? >> >> All I have are my old notes and what google is finding for me... >> >> Please give me some pointers. >> >> thanks > > https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count > https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/QuotaClone > > and the recommendation is under > > https://wiki.dovecot.org/QuotaI have been spending effort today reading up on this and searching on a couple questions. For my additions to 20-imap.conf I have: imap_client_workarounds = delay-newmail protocol imap { ??? mail_plugins = quota imap_quota trash } I see that the mail_plugin quota is moved to 10-mail.conf.? No biggie there.? But what about trash? And I tried to find documentation on imap_client_workarounds and all I have found is in: https://wiki.dovecot.org/QuickConfiguration#Client_Workarounds "Check imap_client_workarounds and pop3_client_workarounds and see if you want to enable more of them than the defaults. ? With no link about where to learn more. Where does quota count go?? Just dovecot.conf or one of the numbered conf addtions? https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count Also is there a way to compute the count for all users?? I am migrating the maildir and rebuilding the sql database.? I see: doveadm?mailbox?status?-u?user at domain?vsize?'*' But do I do that for each user in each domain or is that '*' there to run it on all users? I think this will get me started. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20190212/8bce9528/attachment.html>
On 13.2.2019 2.02, Robert Moskowitz via dovecot wrote:> > > On 2/12/19 1:57 PM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >> >>> On 12 February 2019 at 20:52 Robert Moskowitz via dovecot < >>> dovecot at dovecot.org <mailto:dovecot at dovecot.org>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 2/12/19 1:03 PM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: >>> Dovecot keeps the quota current, although dict quota has been known >>> to be bit bad at this. >>>> We nowadays recommend using count quota instead and use quota_clone >>>> to copy the quota state to database. It is more accurate. >>> And how is this recommendation implemented? >>> >>> All I have are my old notes and what google is finding for me... >>> >>> Please give me some pointers. >>> >>> thanks >> >> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count >> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/QuotaClone >> >> and the recommendation is under >> >> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota > > I have been spending effort today reading up on this and searching on > a couple questions. > > For my additions to 20-imap.conf I have: > > imap_client_workarounds = delay-newmail > protocol imap { > ??? mail_plugins = quota imap_quota trash > } > > I see that the mail_plugin quota is moved to 10-mail.conf.? No biggie > there.? But what about trash? > > And I tried to find documentation on imap_client_workarounds and all I > have found is in: > > https://wiki.dovecot.org/QuickConfiguration#Client_Workarounds > > "Check imap_client_workarounds and pop3_client_workarounds and see if > you want to enable more of them than the defaults. ? > > With no link about where to learn more. > > Where does quota count go?? Just dovecot.conf or one of the numbered > conf addtions? > > https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count > > Also is there a way to compute the count for all users?? I am > migrating the maildir and rebuilding the sql database.? I see: > > doveadm?mailbox?status?-u?user at domain?vsize?'*' > > But do I do that for each user in each domain or is that '*' there to > run it on all users? > > I think this will get me started. > > >You probably should configure quota plugin globally, if you want LMTP/LDA deliveries to update quota. The quota count can be recalculated with doveadm quota recalc Aki -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20190213/819d156b/attachment-0001.html>
On 2/13/19 1:51 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote:> > > On 13.2.2019 2.02, Robert Moskowitz via dovecot wrote: >> >> >> On 2/12/19 1:57 PM, Aki Tuomi wrote: >>> >>>> On 12 February 2019 at 20:52 Robert Moskowitz via dovecot < >>>> dovecot at dovecot.org <mailto:dovecot at dovecot.org>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 2/12/19 1:03 PM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote: >>>> Dovecot keeps the quota current, although dict quota has been known >>>> to be bit bad at this. >>>>> We nowadays recommend using count quota instead and use >>>>> quota_clone to copy the quota state to database. It is more accurate. >>>> And how is this recommendation implemented? >>>> >>>> All I have are my old notes and what google is finding for me... >>>> >>>> Please give me some pointers. >>>> >>>> thanks >>> >>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count >>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/QuotaClone >>> >>> and the recommendation is under >>> >>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota >> >> I have been spending effort today reading up on this and searching on >> a couple questions. >> >> For my additions to 20-imap.conf I have: >> >> imap_client_workarounds = delay-newmail >> protocol imap { >> ??? mail_plugins = quota imap_quota trash >> } >> >> I see that the mail_plugin quota is moved to 10-mail.conf.? No biggie >> there.? But what about trash? >> >> And I tried to find documentation on imap_client_workarounds and all >> I have found is in: >> >> https://wiki.dovecot.org/QuickConfiguration#Client_Workarounds >> >> "Check imap_client_workarounds and pop3_client_workarounds and see if >> you want to enable more of them than the defaults. ? >> >> With no link about where to learn more. >> >> Where does quota count go?? Just dovecot.conf or one of the numbered >> conf addtions? >> >> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count >> >> Also is there a way to compute the count for all users?? I am >> migrating the maildir and rebuilding the sql database.? I see: >> >> doveadm?mailbox?status?-u?user at domain?vsize?'*' >> >> But do I do that for each user in each domain or is that '*' there to >> run it on all users? >> >> I think this will get me started. >> >> >> > > You probably should configure quota plugin globally, if you want > LMTP/LDA deliveries to update quota. >hmm.? This is a bit of an eye-opening statement. My current practice is not to modify all of the various conf.d files, but rather to have a local.conf that has sections for each one that I want to customize.? Basically keeping what is provided then having custom overrides in one place like: #??? 20-pop3.conf pop3_client_workarounds = outlook-no-nuls oe-ns-eoh protocol pop3 { ??? mail_plugins = quota } I think what I should be learning here is to start my local.conf with: mail_plugins = quota then 15-lda section says: #??? 15-lda.conf postmaster_address = postmaster at htt-consult.com protocol lda { ??? mail_plugins = $mail_plugins sieve } lda_mailbox_autocreate = yes lda_mailbox_autosubscribe = yes Am I 'getting it'? Also 20-lmtp only has: #??? 20-lmtp.conf lmtp_save_to_detail_mailbox = yes protocol lmtp { ??? mail_plugins = sieve } Again, it seems from your comment that should be: ??? mail_plugins = $mail_plugins sieve Finally, I am putting all my additions in local.conf.? This is included via the LAST line in dovecot.conf.? It seems that there should be a !include_try global.conf at the beginning of dovecot.conf, or some such name.? Perhaps local_global.conf> The quota count can be recalculated with doveadm quota recalc >I will dig into this doveadm function. thanks> Aki >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <https://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20190213/e0ab7dc7/attachment.html>
More on 'global' local section:
If there was
!include_try global_local.conf
before the
!include_try local.conf
It would have things like:
#??? dovecot.conf
protocols = imap pop3 lmtp sieve
dict {
??? sqlquota = mysql:/etc/dovecot/dovecot-dict-sql.conf.ext
}
On 2/13/19 1:51 AM, Aki Tuomi wrote:>
>
> On 13.2.2019 2.02, Robert Moskowitz via dovecot wrote:
>>
>>
>> On 2/12/19 1:57 PM, Aki Tuomi wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 12 February 2019 at 20:52 Robert Moskowitz via dovecot <
>>>> dovecot at dovecot.org <mailto:dovecot at
dovecot.org>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2/12/19 1:03 PM, Aki Tuomi via dovecot wrote:
>>>> Dovecot keeps the quota current, although dict quota has been
known
>>>> to be bit bad at this.
>>>>> We nowadays recommend using count quota instead and use
>>>>> quota_clone to copy the quota state to database. It is more
accurate.
>>>> And how is this recommendation implemented?
>>>>
>>>> All I have are my old notes and what google is finding for
me...
>>>>
>>>> Please give me some pointers.
>>>>
>>>> thanks
>>>
>>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count
>>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Plugins/QuotaClone
>>>
>>> and the recommendation is under
>>>
>>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota
>>
>> I have been spending effort today reading up on this and searching on
>> a couple questions.
>>
>> For my additions to 20-imap.conf I have:
>>
>> imap_client_workarounds = delay-newmail
>> protocol imap {
>> ??? mail_plugins = quota imap_quota trash
>> }
>>
>> I see that the mail_plugin quota is moved to 10-mail.conf.? No biggie
>> there.? But what about trash?
>>
>> And I tried to find documentation on imap_client_workarounds and all
>> I have found is in:
>>
>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/QuickConfiguration#Client_Workarounds
>>
>> "Check imap_client_workarounds and pop3_client_workarounds and see
if
>> you want to enable more of them than the defaults. ?
>>
>> With no link about where to learn more.
>>
>> Where does quota count go?? Just dovecot.conf or one of the numbered
>> conf addtions?
>>
>> https://wiki.dovecot.org/Quota/Count
>>
>> Also is there a way to compute the count for all users?? I am
>> migrating the maildir and rebuilding the sql database.? I see:
>>
>> doveadm?mailbox?status?-u?user at domain?vsize?'*'
>>
>> But do I do that for each user in each domain or is that '*'
there to
>> run it on all users?
>>
>> I think this will get me started.
>>
>>
>>
>
> You probably should configure quota plugin globally, if you want
> LMTP/LDA deliveries to update quota.
>
> The quota count can be recalculated with doveadm quota recalc
>
> Aki
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