So moving on from earlier issue now looking at converting mail inbox to mdbox and keeping lazy_expunge as mdbox also .. but again seeing some wierdness so questions .... 1) When i purge trash folder I seem to get 2 copies of the message in .EXPUNGED/Trash folder .. however if I set lazy_expunge_only_last_instance = yes then dont seem to get ANY copy .. just nothing. 2) If I go into Trash and delete a message ... then it does not get moved .. I assume that a delete in Trash is not actually an expunge on TB and hence does get caught by the plugin. 3) Since mdbox doesnt delte anything anyway until purged would it be better not to use lazy-expunge but just have a job that moves any messages in mdbox_deleted: storage to the hidden .EXPUNGED namespace .. does doveadm move work with mdbox_deleted ??? any help appreciated rgds Matt