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Jungersen, Danjel - Jungersen Grafisk ApS

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<span style=" font-size:10pt">Hi
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">I have read what I could find, but
not enough apparently.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">I am about to migrate my server to
a postfix / dovecot setup.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">I have stumbled on the mentioned
option and are wondering if I should use
it.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">I have read about it, and I
understand the difference, but I cannot find anything that
guides me to what I should do.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">A pro / con list
?</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">I figure that there are a reason
for the default value, but also wonder when I will benefit
from changing it.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">My plan is to (if possible) make
spamassasin put spam i the spamfolder under the
seperate users (serverside), I dont know if that make any difference
here.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">If it makes any difference,
I'm running 2.2.27.</span></font></div>
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Danjel</span></font></div>
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LAYOUT=fs with maildir makes maildir use filesystem directories for folders, so
instead of
'.mail.folder' it will use 'mail/folder'.<br />
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Make sure you put mail_location (or mail from userdb) to something like
maildir:~/Mail</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Yes, I
understand that, the thing I'm not sure of is when should I use one or the
other?</span></font></div>
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</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
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pros and cons for each solution?</span></font></div>
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Aki</span></font></div>
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Aki Tuomi

2018-Jan-23 09:30 UTC

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On 23.01.2018 11:27, Jungersen, Danjel - Jungersen Grafisk ApS
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> On 22 Jan 2018 at 10:28, Aki Tuomi wrote:
>
>
>
>
> On 22.01.2018 00:46, Jungersen, Danjel - Jungersen Grafisk ApS wrote:
> Hi there.
>
> I have read what I could find, but not enough apparently.
>
> I am about to migrate my server to a postfix / dovecot setup.
>
> I have stumbled on the mentioned option and are wondering if I should
> use it.
>
> I have read about it, and I understand the difference, but I cannot
> find anything that guides me to what I should do.
>
> A pro / con list ?
>
> I figure that there are a reason for the default value, but also
> wonder when I will benefit from changing it.
>
> My plan is to (if possible) make spamassasin put spam i the spamfolder
> under the seperate users (serverside), I dont know if that make any
> difference here.
>
> If it makes any difference, I'm running 2.2.27.
>
> Best regards Danjel
>
> LAYOUT=fs with maildir makes maildir use filesystem directories for
> folders, so instead of '.mail.folder' it will use
'mail/folder'.
>
> Make sure you put mail_location (or mail from userdb) to something
> like maildir:~/Mail
>
> Yes, I understand that, the thing I'm not sure of is when should I use
> one or the other?
>
> What are the pros and cons for each solution?
>
> :-)
> Danjel
>
> Aki
Asking for pros and cons is bit difficult but I suppose it boils down to
having or not having subfolders. It might matter if you have lots and
lots of folders. Also if you are using third party tools they might
expect one way or another.

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<span style=" font-size:10pt">On 22 Jan 2018 at 10:28, Aki Tuomi
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">On 22.01.2018 00:46, Jungersen,
Danjel - Jungersen Grafisk ApS wrote:</span></font></div>
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there.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">I have read what I could find, but
not enough apparently.</span></font></div>
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text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
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text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt">I am about to migrate my server to
a postfix / dovecot setup.</span></font></div>
<div align="left" style="margin-left:9mm; margin-right:0mm;
text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt"><br />
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text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt">I have stumbled on the mentioned
option and are wondering if I should use
it.</span></font></div>
<div align="left" style="margin-left:9mm; margin-right:0mm;
text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt"><br />
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face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt">I have read about it, and I
understand the difference, but I cannot find anything that
guides me to what I should do.</span></font></div>
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text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">A pro / con list
?</span></font></div>
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text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
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face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt">I figure that there are a reason
for the default value, but also wonder when I will benefit
from changing it.</span></font></div>
<div align="left" style="margin-left:9mm; margin-right:0mm;
text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
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face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt">My plan is to (if possible) make
spamassasin put spam i the spamfolder under the
seperate users (serverside), I dont know if that make any difference
here.</span></font></div>
<div align="left" style="margin-left:9mm; margin-right:0mm;
text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
face="Arial" size="2">
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face="Arial" size="2">
<span style=" font-size:10pt">If it makes any difference,
I'm running 2.2.27.</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">Best regards
Danjel</span></font></div>
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LAYOUT=fs with maildir makes maildir use filesystem directories for folders, so
instead
of '.mail.folder' it will use 'mail/folder'.<br />
<br />
Make sure you put mail_location (or mail from userdb) to something like
maildir:~/Mail</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">Yes, I understand that, the thing
I'm not sure of is when should I use one or the
other?</span></font></div>
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text-indent:0mm; margin-top:0.00mm; margin-bottom:0.00mm;"><font
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">What are the pros and cons for
each solution?</span></font></div>
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<span style=" font-size:10pt">Danjel<br />
<br />
Aki</span></font></div>
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/>> Asking for pros and cons is bit difficult but I suppose it boils down to
having or not having</span></font></div><div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">>
subfolders. It might matter if you have lots and lots of
folders.</span></font></div>
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size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt"><br />
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">I thought
about, what if I have lot and lots of
mails?</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">I have about
100.000 mails in my mailbox, stored in 402 folders, several of my users have
similar amounts.</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">I don't
know if that is "lots and lots".</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">> Also if
you are using third party tools they might expect one way or another.
<br />
<br />
</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Third
party....</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">Any
recommendations regarding spamassasin?</span></font></div>
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</span></font></div>
<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
size="2"><span style=" font-size:10pt">As
mentioned, a perfect solution for me was to have the server put detected spam in
the
users spamfolders.</span></font></div>
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<div align="left"><font face="Arial"
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font-size:10pt">:-)</span></font></div>
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font-size:10pt">Danjel</span></font></div>
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Aki</span></font></div>
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