One other point. Adding support for something like this that also requires Clients to add support for it is just begging for a feature that never gets used. Stephan, are you sure there is no (fairly simple) way to make this an SMTP service that any email client that supports SMTP can use? On 12/14/2017, 10:57:44 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl at libertytrek.org> wrote:> On 12/14/2017, 3:03:41 AM, Aki Tuomi <aki.tuomi at dovecot.fi> wrote: >> On 13.12.2017 21:41, Tanstaafl wrote: >>> On 12/12/2017, 1:39:08 PM, Stephan Bosch <stephan at rename-it.nl> wrote: >>> I thought this was simply going to be an SMTP like service that any SMTP >>> client could utilize, keeping the BURL/URLAUTH pieces working only >>> between Dovecot and the MTA it works with. Meaning, instead of >>> connecting an SMTP service provided by Postfix, you connect to one >>> provided by Dovecot. I guess there is a good reason it couldn't be made >>> to work this way. >>> >>> For obvious reasons, the likelihood that Thunderbird will add >>> BURL/URLAUTH support anytime in the next few years is probably nonexistent. > >> Actually it's supposed to serve as SMTP-like service as well. > > Meaning... it actually won't require Thunderbird to implement anything > (at least painful) to allow it to make use of it? > > <he said in a meek, hopeful voice> > > Thanks Aki, > > Charles >
Op 12/14/2017 om 6:07 PM schreef Tanstaafl:> One other point. > > Adding support for something like this that also requires Clients to add > support for it is just begging for a feature that never gets used. > > Stephan, are you sure there is no (fairly simple) way to make this an > SMTP service that any email client that supports SMTP can use?It already is a normal compliant SMTP submission server. Just the BURL part is something that requires additional client support. Regards, Stephan.> > > On 12/14/2017, 10:57:44 AM, Tanstaafl <tanstaafl at libertytrek.org> wrote: >> On 12/14/2017, 3:03:41 AM, Aki Tuomi <aki.tuomi at dovecot.fi> wrote: >>> On 13.12.2017 21:41, Tanstaafl wrote: >>>> On 12/12/2017, 1:39:08 PM, Stephan Bosch <stephan at rename-it.nl> wrote: >>>> I thought this was simply going to be an SMTP like service that any SMTP >>>> client could utilize, keeping the BURL/URLAUTH pieces working only >>>> between Dovecot and the MTA it works with. Meaning, instead of >>>> connecting an SMTP service provided by Postfix, you connect to one >>>> provided by Dovecot. I guess there is a good reason it couldn't be made >>>> to work this way. >>>> >>>> For obvious reasons, the likelihood that Thunderbird will add >>>> BURL/URLAUTH support anytime in the next few years is probably nonexistent. >>> Actually it's supposed to serve as SMTP-like service as well. >> Meaning... it actually won't require Thunderbird to implement anything >> (at least painful) to allow it to make use of it? >> >> <he said in a meek, hopeful voice> >> >> Thanks Aki, >> >> Charles >>
On 12/16/2017, 5:10:14 AM, Stephan Bosch <stephan at rename-it.nl> wrote:> Op 12/14/2017 om 6:07 PM schreef Tanstaafl: >> One other point. >> >> Adding support for something like this that also requires Clients to add >> support for it is just begging for a feature that never gets used. >> >> Stephan, are you sure there is no (fairly simple) way to make this an >> SMTP service that any email client that supports SMTP can use? > > It already is a normal compliant SMTP submission server. Just the BURL > part is something that requires additional client support.Ok, well, my ignorance is probably glaring here, but what I meant was, the make the BURL/URLAUTH pieces strictly between Dovecot and the backend SMTP server, make it invisible to the Client...