I'm new to Dovecot and I need help configuring a shared or public mailbox - I'm not sure which is appropriate. I've read the wiki and Peer's book and neither appears to cover what I'd like to do. So I could use some specific help on how to configure a solution for the following: I'd like to create two real mailboxes, let's call them AAA and BBB. Let's call the domain "mydomain". Anyone user can send mail to them, just like any other address: aaa at mydomain or bbb at mydomain. I'd like all IMAP users in mydomain to be able to read the messages in those mailboxes. I'd like all POP users in mydomain to also see those messages. (But I don't think I need help with the virtual part). I'd like only a few designated IMAP users to be able to delete the messages in those mailboxes, including dummy users AAA and BBB themselves. Ideally, I'd like them to appear in the client under a separate namespace from shared mailboxes. Example: INBOX +--- the normal stuff. Shared +--- user1 +--- user2 Special +--- AAA +--- BBB My confusion: 1) I don't know if this requires a shared namespace or a public namespace. It "feels" like it's "public", since all users would have access. But Peer's book and the wiki describe manually creating folders for public namespaces and controlling the contents with manual file manipulation, which leads me to believe that they can't be used for regular mail (although the book and the wiki never say one way or the other). I don't want to manually control files. I want to send mail to the mailbox and delete (see above) it with a client. 2) There are several examples in Peer's book and the wiki, but none seem to match what I want. (This is the problem with documentation that is predominantly example-based). I guess I need more explanation of the mechanical differences between shared and public and why one would pick one over the other. Can someone help? Please be as specific as you can. Thanks much, Michael
No answer. Trying again. Surely someone with experience with public mailboxes can offer some insight on whether the application below should be a public or shared namespace ... Thanks Michael -----Original Message----- From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Michael Fox Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:53 AM To: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot at dovecot.org> Subject: shared/public mailbox application I'm new to Dovecot and I need help configuring a shared or public mailbox - I'm not sure which is appropriate. I've read the wiki and Peer's book and neither appears to cover what I'd like to do. So I could use some specific help on how to configure a solution for the following: I'd like to create two real mailboxes, let's call them AAA and BBB. Let's call the domain "mydomain". By "real", I mean that users aaa at mydomain and bbb at mydomain can log into their own mailbox. Anyone user can send mail to them, just like any other address: aaa at mydomain or bbb at mydomain. I'd like all IMAP users in mydomain to be able to read the messages in those mailboxes. I'd like all POP users in mydomain to also see those messages. (But I don't think I need help with the virtual part). I'd like only a few designated IMAP users to be able to delete the messages in those mailboxes, including dummy users AAA and BBB themselves. Ideally, I'd like them to appear in the client under a separate namespace from shared mailboxes. Example: INBOX +--- the normal stuff. Shared +--- user1 +--- user2 Special +--- AAA +--- BBB My confusion: 1) I don't know if this requires a shared namespace or a public namespace. It "feels" like it's "public", since all users would have access. But Peer's book and the wiki describe manually creating folders for public namespaces and controlling the contents with manual file manipulation, which leads me to believe that they can't be used for regular mail (although the book and the wiki never say one way or the other). I don't want to manually control files. I want to send mail to the mailbox and delete (see above) it with a client. 2) There are several examples in Peer's book and the wiki, but none seem to match what I want. (This is the problem with documentation that is predominantly example-based). I guess I need more explanation of the mechanical differences between shared and public and why one would pick one over the other. Can someone help? Please be as specific as you can. Thanks much, Michael
Hi Michael, we migrated from Cyrus Shared Folders to Dovecot Public Folder. Our setup with Dovecot: - Public Namespace type=public - prefix=NAMESPACE - location=maildir:/var/vmail/public/domain.com/folder:INDEXPVT=~/public/domain.com/NAME - list=children to show NAMESPACE only if acl is given - Restart Dovecot - cd /var/vmail/public/domain.com/NAMESPACE - mkdir .NAME - We utilise one user doveadm at domain.com to control acl - doveadm acl set -u doveadm at domain.com NAMESPACE/NAME user=doveadm at domain.com all (this creates also the Maildir) - doveadm mailbox subscribe -u doveadm at domain.com NAMESPACE/NAME - dm acl set -u doveadm at domain.com NAMESPACE/NAME user=firstname.lastname at domain.com lookup read write write-seen write-deleted insert post expunge User firstname.lastname at domain.com can now subscribe to the public folder ?NAMESPACE/NAME?. With this base you could create a more specific setup which more precisely fits your need. There are also other strategies achieving Shared Folders the Cyrus way. :) Hope that helps. Tobias On 28 Nov 2016, at 15:38, Michael Fox wrote:> No answer. Trying again. Surely someone with experience with public > mailboxes can offer some insight on whether the application below should be > a public or shared namespace ... > > Thanks > Michael > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Michael Fox > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:53 AM > To: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot at dovecot.org> > Subject: shared/public mailbox application > > I'm new to Dovecot and I need help configuring a shared or public mailbox - > I'm not sure which is appropriate. I've read the wiki and Peer's book and > neither appears to cover what I'd like to do. So I could use some specific > help on how to configure a solution for the following: > > > > I'd like to create two real mailboxes, let's call them AAA and BBB. Let's > call the domain "mydomain". By "real", I mean that users aaa at mydomain and > bbb at mydomain can log into their own mailbox. > > Anyone user can send mail to them, just like any other address: > aaa at mydomain or bbb at mydomain. > > I'd like all IMAP users in mydomain to be able to read the messages in those > mailboxes. > > I'd like all POP users in mydomain to also see those messages. (But I don't > think I need help with the virtual part). > > I'd like only a few designated IMAP users to be able to delete the messages > in those mailboxes, including dummy users AAA and BBB themselves. > > Ideally, I'd like them to appear in the client under a separate namespace > from shared mailboxes. Example: > > > > INBOX > > +--- the normal stuff. > > Shared > > +--- user1 > > +--- user2 > > Special > > +--- AAA > > +--- BBB > > > > My confusion: > > 1) I don't know if this requires a shared namespace or a public > namespace. It "feels" like it's "public", since all users would have > access. But Peer's book and the wiki describe manually creating folders for > public namespaces and controlling the contents with manual file > manipulation, which leads me to believe that they can't be used for regular > mail (although the book and the wiki never say one way or the other). I > don't want to manually control files. I want to send mail to the mailbox > and delete (see above) it with a client. > > 2) There are several examples in Peer's book and the wiki, but none > seem to match what I want. (This is the problem with documentation that is > predominantly example-based). I guess I need more explanation of the > mechanical differences between shared and public and why one would pick one > over the other. > > > > Can someone help? Please be as specific as you can. > > > > Thanks much, > > Michael-- Tobias Kirchhofer tobias at kirchhofer.net -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 842 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20161128/65e06f39/attachment.sig>
> -----Original Message----- > From: dovecot [mailto:dovecot-bounces at dovecot.org] On Behalf Of Michael > Fox > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2016 11:53 AM > To: Dovecot Mailing List <dovecot at dovecot.org> > Subject: shared/public mailbox application > > I'm new to Dovecot and I need help configuring a shared or public > mailbox - > I'm not sure which is appropriate. I've read the wiki and Peer's book and > neither appears to cover what I'd like to do. So I could use some > specific > help on how to configure a solution for the following: > > > > I'd like to create two real mailboxes, let's call them AAA and BBB. Let's > call the domain "mydomain". By "real", I mean that users aaa at mydomain and > bbb at mydomain can log into their own mailbox. > > Anyone user can send mail to them, just like any other address: > aaa at mydomain or bbb at mydomain. > > I'd like all IMAP users in mydomain to be able to read the messages in > those > mailboxes. > > I'd like all POP users in mydomain to also see those messages. (But I > don't > think I need help with the virtual part). > > I'd like only a few designated IMAP users to be able to delete the > messages > in those mailboxes, including dummy users AAA and BBB themselves. > > Ideally, I'd like them to appear in the client under a separate namespace > from shared mailboxes. Example: > > > > INBOX > > +--- the normal stuff. > > Shared > > +--- user1 > > +--- user2 > > Special > > +--- AAA > > +--- BBB > > > > My confusion: > > 1) I don't know if this requires a shared namespace or a public > namespace. It "feels" like it's "public", since all users would have > access. But Peer's book and the wiki describe manually creating folders > for > public namespaces and controlling the contents with manual file > manipulation, which leads me to believe that they can't be used for > regular > mail (although the book and the wiki never say one way or the other). I > don't want to manually control files. I want to send mail to the mailbox > and delete (see above) it with a client. > > 2) There are several examples in Peer's book and the wiki, but none > seem to match what I want. (This is the problem with documentation that > is > predominantly example-based). I guess I need more explanation of the > mechanical differences between shared and public and why one would pick > one > over the other. > > > > Can someone help? Please be as specific as you can. > > > > Thanks much, > > Michael >Hi, I did that in Linux (Ubuntu) by using symbolic links. In the INBOX of users that you want to see shared emails place a symlink to the shared INBOX. <domain> | <user 1> | | ...INBOX | | .Drafts (folder) | | .Trash (folder | | ... | | ~.Shared AAA --> ../aaa | | ~.Shared BBB --> ../bbb | <user 2> | | ...INBOX | | ... | | ~.Shared AAA --> ../aaa | | ~.Shared BBB --> ../bbb | <aaa> | | ...INBOX | | ... | <bbb> | | ...INBOX | | ... The only thing that could create problems are permissions. I use the same UID/GID for all users (vmail:vmail) so I don't have such problems. If you want special permissions for groups of users (some can delete emails in shared folders) you need to define the permission groups, add users you want to those groups and set rw permission and set group bit on shared folders. If you're not using Linux I cannot help. Adrian