dovecot - Nov 2015 - Questions about hardlinks, alternate storage and compression]

On 30 Nov 2015, at 10:21, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it>
wrote:
> 
> So, let me do a straigth question: is someone using dovecot/LMTP with
hardlinking? To me, this seems a _very_ important feature, and I wonder if I am
doing something wrong or if the feature (hardlink+sieve) simply does not exists.
Hardlink+Sieve has never worked. The fix is a bit complicated. Here's my
TODO entry about it:

 - remove mail_deliver_session after all, do all the stuff transparently
   by hooking into mailbox_copy().
     - use this hook also to do the mail deduplication: 1) sort all destination
       users, 2) create mail_user only once for each user, 3) remember in
       src_mail the previously copied mail, 4) use that for mailbox_copy()ing
       to following recipients
     - make sure this removes duplicate dbox mails when sieve saves mail to
       multiple mailboxes

Hi Timo,
glad to know it is in your TODO list ;)

Any rough ETA on that?
Thanks.

On 30/11/2015 14:23, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> On 30 Nov 2015, at 10:21, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it>
wrote:
>>
>> So, let me do a straigth question: is someone using dovecot/LMTP with
hardlinking? To me, this seems a _very_ important feature, and I wonder if I am
doing something wrong or if the feature (hardlink+sieve) simply does not exists.
>
> Hardlink+Sieve has never worked. The fix is a bit complicated. Here's
my TODO entry about it:
>
>   - remove mail_deliver_session after all, do all the stuff transparently
>     by hooking into mailbox_copy().
>       - use this hook also to do the mail deduplication: 1) sort all
destination
>         users, 2) create mail_user only once for each user, 3) remember in
>         src_mail the previously copied mail, 4) use that for
mailbox_copy()ing
>         to following recipients
>       - make sure this removes duplicate dbox mails when sieve saves mail
to
>         multiple mailboxes
>
-- 
Danti Gionatan
Supporto Tecnico
Assyoma S.r.l. - www.assyoma.it
email: g.danti at assyoma.it - info at assyoma.it
GPG public key ID: FF5F32A8

On 30 Nov 2015, at 17:48, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it>
wrote:
> 
> Hi Timo,
> glad to know it is in your TODO list ;)
It's been for many years.
> Any rough ETA on that?
Right now it doesn't seem likely to be developed anytime soon.
> Thanks.
> 
> On 30/11/2015 14:23, Timo Sirainen wrote:
>> On 30 Nov 2015, at 10:21, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it>
wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, let me do a straigth question: is someone using dovecot/LMTP
with hardlinking? To me, this seems a _very_ important feature, and I wonder if
I am doing something wrong or if the feature (hardlink+sieve) simply does not
exists.
>> 
>> Hardlink+Sieve has never worked. The fix is a bit complicated.
Here's my TODO entry about it:
>> 
>>  - remove mail_deliver_session after all, do all the stuff
transparently
>>    by hooking into mailbox_copy().
>>      - use this hook also to do the mail deduplication: 1) sort all
destination
>>        users, 2) create mail_user only once for each user, 3) remember
in
>>        src_mail the previously copied mail, 4) use that for
mailbox_copy()ing
>>        to following recipients
>>      - make sure this removes duplicate dbox mails when sieve saves
mail to
>>        multiple mailboxes
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Danti Gionatan
> Supporto Tecnico
> Assyoma S.r.l. - www.assyoma.it
> email: g.danti at assyoma.it - info at assyoma.it
> GPG public key ID: FF5F32A8

Hi list,
any news regarding hardlinks + sieve/pigeonhole setup?

Hardlinking seems a very important feature to me, and I would really 
like to get it working.

Thanks.

On 30/11/2015 14:23, Timo Sirainen wrote:
> On 30 Nov 2015, at 10:21, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it>
wrote:
>>
>> So, let me do a straigth question: is someone using dovecot/LMTP with
hardlinking? To me, this seems a _very_ important feature, and I wonder if I am
doing something wrong or if the feature (hardlink+sieve) simply does not exists.
>
> Hardlink+Sieve has never worked. The fix is a bit complicated. Here's
my TODO entry about it:
>
>   - remove mail_deliver_session after all, do all the stuff transparently
>     by hooking into mailbox_copy().
>       - use this hook also to do the mail deduplication: 1) sort all
destination
>         users, 2) create mail_user only once for each user, 3) remember in
>         src_mail the previously copied mail, 4) use that for
mailbox_copy()ing
>         to following recipients
>       - make sure this removes duplicate dbox mails when sieve saves mail
to
>         multiple mailboxes
>
-- 
Danti Gionatan
Supporto Tecnico
Assyoma S.r.l. - www.assyoma.it
email: g.danti at assyoma.it - info at assyoma.it
GPG public key ID: FF5F32A8

It's a rather difficult change and also pretty low priority right now.
I'd be happy to explain the details to whoever wants to develop this, but I
wouldn't be surprised if it was still unimplemented a few years from now.
> On 07 Jun 2016, at 15:59, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it>
wrote:
> 
> Hi list,
> any news regarding hardlinks + sieve/pigeonhole setup?
> 
> Hardlinking seems a very important feature to me, and I would really like
to get it working.
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> On 30/11/2015 14:23, Timo Sirainen wrote:
>> On 30 Nov 2015, at 10:21, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it>
wrote:
>>> 
>>> So, let me do a straigth question: is someone using dovecot/LMTP
with hardlinking? To me, this seems a _very_ important feature, and I wonder if
I am doing something wrong or if the feature (hardlink+sieve) simply does not
exists.
>> 
>> Hardlink+Sieve has never worked. The fix is a bit complicated.
Here's my TODO entry about it:
>> 
>>  - remove mail_deliver_session after all, do all the stuff
transparently
>>    by hooking into mailbox_copy().
>>      - use this hook also to do the mail deduplication: 1) sort all
destination
>>        users, 2) create mail_user only once for each user, 3) remember
in
>>        src_mail the previously copied mail, 4) use that for
mailbox_copy()ing
>>        to following recipients
>>      - make sure this removes duplicate dbox mails when sieve saves
mail to
>>        multiple mailboxes
>> 
> 
> -- 
> Danti Gionatan
> Supporto Tecnico
> Assyoma S.r.l. - www.assyoma.it
> email: g.danti at assyoma.it - info at assyoma.it
> GPG public key ID: FF5F32A8