dovecot - Aug 2008 - Dovecot & (Al)pine - resaving messages to Inbox

I have a x86 Linux box running Fedora 4. Up until 2008 I was using pine 4.64 and
Dovecot 0.99.x. In early 2008 I transitioned to Alpine 1.10, and didn't
notice any major changes.

I upgraded to Dovecot 1.0.15 this past weekend. My dovecot -n settings are at
the bottom of the email.

I've noticed a change since Dovecot was upgraded. I used to reorder items
within my INBOX in al/pine by "saving" messages back to the INBOX,
which I was connecting via IMAP
. Now when I try to do it I get an error in alpine that says:

[Can't copy mails inside same folder]  then:
 [Save to folder "{localhost:143/i...r=jherbach}INBOX" FAILED]

While these are alpine messages, they appear to be from the dovecot upgrade. 

I really miss the ability to reorder messages in my inbox since I often use it
as a queue of important items. Does anybody have any ideas why I'm seeing
this error message? Or better yet, how to potentially (re) configure the system
to allow me to resave messages into the same folder?

Jonathan

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My settings:
# 1.0.15: /usr/local/etc/dovecot.conf

protocols: imap pop3 imaps pop3s

ssl_cert_file: /etc/pki/dovecot/dovecot.pem

ssl_key_file: /etc/pki/dovecot/private/dovecot.pem

disable_plaintext_auth: no

login_dir: /var/run/dovecot-login

login_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login

login_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap-login

login_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3-login

first_valid_gid: 100

last_valid_gid: 100

mail_location: mbox:%h/mail:INBOX=%h/Mailbox

mbox_write_locks: fcntl

mail_executable(default): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap

mail_executable(imap): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/imap

mail_executable(pop3): /usr/local/libexec/dovecot/pop3

mail_plugin_dir(default): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap

mail_plugin_dir(imap): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/imap

mail_plugin_dir(pop3): /usr/local/lib/dovecot/pop3

pop3_no_flag_updates(default): no

pop3_no_flag_updates(imap): no

pop3_no_flag_updates(pop3): yes

pop3_uidl_format(default): 

pop3_uidl_format(imap): 

pop3_uidl_format(pop3): %08Xu%08X

pop3_client_workarounds(default): 

pop3_client_workarounds(imap): 

pop3_client_workarounds(pop3): outlook-no-nuls

auth default:

  passdb:

    driver: pam

  userdb:

    driver: passwd








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On Tue, 19 Aug 2008, Jonathan Herbach wrote:
> I've noticed a change since Dovecot was upgraded. I used to reorder
items within my INBOX in al/pine by "saving" messages back to the
INBOX, which I was connecting via IMAP
I can "S"ave a message from INBOX to INBOX and a message from another 
folder to the INBOX just fine. But I use Dovecot v1.0.13.

Bye,

- -- 
Steffen Kaiser
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> I suppose the OP does not sort by date but Arrival time (this means arrival
time in the mailbox).
Exactly. I sort by arrival time, which in practice is the "unsorted"
ordering based upon the mbox file itself. (Except I'd like to control the
arbitrary "unsorted" order that I want by "resave to inbox"
to handle reordering.)

Nicolas wrote:
> - a quick grep shows this is 'normal' behaviour, as written in
> src/lib-storage/index/mbox/mbox-save.c
>
> if (mbox->mbox_lock_type == F_RDLCK) {
> /* FIXME: we shouldn't fail here. it's just
> a locking issue that should be possible to
> fix.. */
> mail_storage_set_error(storage,
> MAIL_ERROR_NOTPOSSIBLE,
> "Can't copy mails inside same mailbox");
> return -1;
> }
So I'm currently using: mbox_write_locks: fcntl
When I was using version 9 the relevant config setting was: "mbox_locks =
fcntl", which plus the config suggestion "fcntl:  Use this if
possible" led me down this path.

Does anybody know why this code was designed this way  / why it is different
from 0.99 behavior / etc?


Jonathan




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On Tue, 2008-08-19 at 18:43 -0700, Jonathan Herbach
wrote:
> I really miss the ability to reorder messages in my inbox since I often use
it as a queue of important items. Does anybody have any ideas why I'm seeing
this error message? Or better yet, how to potentially (re) configure the system
to allow me to resave messages into the same folder?
Oh, you had an answer to my previous question. :)

Anyway, you could always copy it to another mailbox and then back, but
currently copying a message inside a mailbox isn't working with mbox
format. Feel free to disable the extra check in the code and fix the
resulting assert-crash.
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