dovecot - Apr 2008 - antispam plugin ehancement

I'm not a developper so I can't do it by myself, but I wonder if it  
could be possible to use tagSpam and tagNospam DSPAM feature to ehance  
user's dspam lerning experience. I even don't know if this must be  
done by DSPAM itself or by dovecot, but let me explain :

The feature would be done by a signature replacement into tagSpam and  
tagNospam text, so the user would simply have to click on the link at  
end of the mail to learn DSPAM :

# dspam.conf
tagSpam on
tagNonspam on

# msgtag.spam
If this message was classified SPAM by mistake, please click here :
http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig=
{DSPAM_SIG}

# msgtag.nonspam
If this message should have been classified SPAM, please click here :
http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig=
{DSPAM_SIG}

I think a click is easier and faster than a forward, what do you think  
of such an implementation ?

Regards,
David.

ML wrote:
> I'm not a developper so I can't do it by myself, but I wonder if it
> could be possible to use tagSpam and tagNospam DSPAM feature to ehance 
> user's dspam lerning experience. I even don't know if this must be 
> done by DSPAM itself or by dovecot, but let me explain :
>
> The feature would be done by a signature replacement into tagSpam and 
> tagNospam text, so the user would simply have to click on the link at 
> end of the mail to learn DSPAM :
>
> # dspam.conf
> tagSpam on
> tagNonspam on
>
> # msgtag.spam
> If this message was classified SPAM by mistake, please click here : 
> http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig={DSPAM_SIG}
>
> # msgtag.nonspam
> If this message should have been classified SPAM, please click here : 
> http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig={DSPAM_SIG}
>
> I think a click is easier and faster than a forward, what do you think 
> of such an implementation ?
>
> Regards,
> David.
>
If you're using IMAP, you don't need to forward. With the right setup 
you only have to move messages around from/to the IMAP server Spam folder.

If you're using POP, then usually that means forwarding messages. But 
there are already some plugins/extensions that provide simple Spam/Not 
Spam buttons, both for M$ Outlook and Thunderbird.

Never the less, it would be a nice idea, but i think you're forgetting 
the technicalities.  I assume that such http submission would be 
authenticated. Do you want to nag your users constantly with 
authentication popups, and windows opening, so they can retrain?


Two possibilities for Outlook & Thunderbird are discussed here, on the 
last paragraph.
http://hmonteiro.net/howtos:qmail:qmail_plus_dspam#retraining_with_email_forwarding



Cheers,

Hugo Monteiro.

-- 
ci.fct.unl.pt:~# cat .signature

Hugo Monteiro
Email	 : hugo.monteiro at fct.unl.pt
Telefone : +351 212948300 Ext.15307

Centro de Inform?tica
Faculdade de Ci?ncias e Tecnologia da
		   Universidade Nova de Lisboa
Quinta da Torre   2829-516 Caparica   Portugal
Telefone: +351 212948596   Fax: +351 212948548
www.ci.fct.unl.pt	      apoio at fct.unl.pt

ci.fct.unl.pt:~# _


-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 252 bytes
Desc: OpenPGP digital signature
URL:
<http://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20080421/e5975ec2/attachment-0002.bin>

On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 12:18 +0200, ML wrote:
> I'm not a developper so I can't do it by myself, 
> # msgtag.spam
> If this message was classified SPAM by mistake, please click here :
http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig=
> {DSPAM_SIG}
> 
> # msgtag.nonspam
> If this message should have been classified SPAM, please click here :
http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig=
> {DSPAM_SIG}
> 
> I think a click is easier and faster than a forward, what do you think  
> of such an implementation ?
This has nothing at all to do with dovecot or the antispam plugin for
dovecot.

johannes
-------------- next part --------------
A non-text attachment was scrubbed...
Name: signature.asc
Type: application/pgp-signature
Size: 828 bytes
Desc: This is a digitally signed message part
URL:
<http://dovecot.org/pipermail/dovecot/attachments/20080421/46a4964a/attachment-0002.bin>

Le 21 avr. 08 ? 12:49, Hugo Monteiro a ?crit :
>
> Never the less, it would be a nice idea, but i think you're  
> forgetting the technicalities.  I assume that such http submission  
> would be authenticated. Do you want to nag your users constantly  
> with authentication popups, and windows opening, so they can retrain?
>

Why auth ? there's no auth when forwarding, mail with a known sig is  
retrain, mail with unknown sig is ignored, so I imagined that a click  
with valid sig is retrain and a click with unvalid sig is not. Any  
drawback to this ?

>
> Two possibilities for Outlook & Thunderbird are discussed here, on  
> the last paragraph.
>
http://hmonteiro.net/howtos:qmail:qmail_plus_dspam#retraining_with_email_forwarding
>

Thank, I'll have a look.
>

Le 21 avr. 08 ? 13:58, Johannes Berg a ?crit :
> On Mon, 2008-04-21 at 12:18 +0200, ML wrote:
>> I'm not a developper so I can't do it by myself,
>> # msgtag.spam
>> If this message was classified SPAM by mistake, please click here :
http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig>> {DSPAM_SIG}
>>
>> # msgtag.nonspam
>> If this message should have been classified SPAM, please click  
>> here : http://example.com/dspam-retrain.cgi?sig>> {DSPAM_SIG}
>>
>> I think a click is easier and faster than a forward, what do you  
>> think
>> of such an implementation ?
>
> This has nothing at all to do with dovecot or the antispam plugin for
> dovecot.

Ok, I've also read several articles since my post and it seem this is  
a DSPAM-only issue... sorry for the noise