First of all thanks for the replies. I have decided to try the updated version 1.0 alpha After uninstalling Dovecot .99 and cleaning up user,groups and files. (Dovecot .99 was authenticating as best I can tell using unix users = the default -- and PAM = the default - I only had to setup the PAM if I remember correctly. Loaded Dovecot 1.0, made sure user, folders and files all seem to be setup correctly. Now - Webmin is able to stop and start Dovecot and it loads fine on reboot. But, it is pretty obvious that the Webmin modual is not up with then new and much more powerful Dovecot config file. For me that is OK, as long it will show weather the service is up or down - stop and start it, which is seems to be doing just fine. The reason I say this is when I try and use the Webmin modual to set user authentication to Standard Unix user database and PAM - it does not work. So I am needing help editing the Dovecot.conf file. My new problem is this: Can not get users to authenticate. I am trying to first setup just unix authentication - with plain text for starters then will move up to more secure. I have left the config file default - just made changes until it would start. With the notable execption I set plain text to yes. I have setup the Dovecot PAM file per the documentation. So what I need help now with is this I am wanting to setup a very simple setup to start with: A setup so that a outlook express client can login, using plain text password, unix login and password POP3 = yes Users = linux/unix (/etc/passwd) Passwords = PAM or Shadow Can anyone send me and edited config file that is setup to for this type of authentication? Or cut from their config file those sections needed for the authentication? Actually, if anyone is willing to share a config file that is setup with a more secure type of authentication that would be great too. (Thinking of switching to Cyrus - have any of you jump off of Cyrus to use Dovecot -- why??) Lee D System: Fedora Core 4 with SE on SendMail 8.13.4 SpamAssassign 3.03 MailScanner 1.1-4 ClamAV .87 Webmin 1.250 Webmin Dovecot Module - not sure only one out there _________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/