crossbow discuss - Apr 2008 - NICs that provide full support for Crossbow?

Do you have a list of NICs you know of that fully support the Crossbow
architecture, e.g. that they provide multiple HW TX/RX rings, MSI-X and some
L3/L4 classification capabilities?

Many thanks,
Anna

It''s hard to say "fully" support, since the architecture is
designed to
handle various hardware implementations by defining flexible capability 
negotiation interfaces.
Simply, the following hardwares can support Crosbow architecture pretty 
well:
  * Neptune 10G/1G (Sun)
  * Xframe 2/E/VC 10G (Neterion)
  * Oplin 10G (Intel)
  * Zoar 1G (Intel)

There are also some other NICs which have many virtualization feature in 
place.

Thanks,

Roamer


Fischer, Anna wrote:
> Do you have a list of NICs you know of that fully support the Crossbow
architecture, e.g. that they provide multiple HW TX/RX rings, MSI-X and some
L3/L4 classification capabilities?
> 
> Many thanks,
> Anna
> _______________________________________________
> crossbow-discuss mailing list
> crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/crossbow-discuss
-- 

# telnet (650)-786-6759 (x86759)
Connected to Solaris.Sun.COM.
login: Lu, Yunsong
Last login: January 2, 2007 from beyond.sfbay
Yunsong.Lu at Sun.COM    v1.04    Since Mon Dec. 22, 2003
[Roamer at Solaris Networking]# cd ..

Have you already had success using Solarflare NICs
(http://www.solarflare.com/products/solarstorm.pdf) with Crossbow?
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Roamer.Lu at sun.com [mailto:Roamer.Lu at sun.com] On Behalf Of
Yunsong
> (Roamer) Lu
> Sent: 07 April 2008 23:19
> To: Fischer, Anna
> Cc: crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
> Subject: Re: [crossbow-discuss] NICs that provide full support for
> Crossbow?
>
> It''s hard to say "fully" support, since the architecture
is designed to
> handle various hardware implementations by defining flexible capability
> negotiation interfaces.
> Simply, the following hardwares can support Crosbow architecture pretty
> well:
>   * Neptune 10G/1G (Sun)
>   * Xframe 2/E/VC 10G (Neterion)
>   * Oplin 10G (Intel)
>   * Zoar 1G (Intel)
>
> There are also some other NICs which have many virtualization feature
> in
> place.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roamer
>
>
> Fischer, Anna wrote:
> > Do you have a list of NICs you know of that fully support the
> Crossbow architecture, e.g. that they provide multiple HW TX/RX rings,
> MSI-X and some L3/L4 classification capabilities?
> >
> > Many thanks,
> > Anna
> > _______________________________________________
> > crossbow-discuss mailing list
> > crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
> > http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/crossbow-discuss
>
> --
>
> # telnet (650)-786-6759 (x86759)
> Connected to Solaris.Sun.COM.
> login: Lu, Yunsong
> Last login: January 2, 2007 from beyond.sfbay
> Yunsong.Lu at Sun.COM    v1.04    Since Mon Dec. 22, 2003
> [Roamer at Solaris Networking]# cd ..

I don''t think it has been ported yet to Crossbow (but perhaps
Paul or someone from Solarfare can comment). There is a
working driver with Nevada.

BTW, the NICs Roamer mentioned below are the one that already
have (or will soon have) a driver for Crossbow. There are other
NICs like newer Broadcom NICs, and NICs like Solarfare that
should also work. In addition, older Intel and Broadcom
NICs supported by e1000g and bge drivers have some classification
capability.

Since Crossbow has a fully functional pseudo H/W layer (which has
a more powerful S/W classification and Rx/Tx softrings), any
GLDv3 NIC can be used with Crossbow. Legacy DLPI NICs can be
converted in GLDv3 NICs by softmac project (part of Clearview)
so in short, any NIC which has a Solaris driver should work with
Crossbow.

Cheers,
Sunay

Fischer, Anna wrote:
> Have you already had success using Solarflare NICs
(http://www.solarflare.com/products/solarstorm.pdf) with Crossbow?
> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Roamer.Lu at sun.com [mailto:Roamer.Lu at sun.com] On Behalf Of
Yunsong
>> (Roamer) Lu
>> Sent: 07 April 2008 23:19
>> To: Fischer, Anna
>> Cc: crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
>> Subject: Re: [crossbow-discuss] NICs that provide full support for
>> Crossbow?
>>
>> It''s hard to say "fully" support, since the
architecture is designed to
>> handle various hardware implementations by defining flexible capability
>> negotiation interfaces.
>> Simply, the following hardwares can support Crosbow architecture pretty
>> well:
>>   * Neptune 10G/1G (Sun)
>>   * Xframe 2/E/VC 10G (Neterion)
>>   * Oplin 10G (Intel)
>>   * Zoar 1G (Intel)
>>
>> There are also some other NICs which have many virtualization feature
>> in
>> place.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Roamer
>>
>>
>> Fischer, Anna wrote:
>>> Do you have a list of NICs you know of that fully support the
>> Crossbow architecture, e.g. that they provide multiple HW TX/RX rings,
>> MSI-X and some L3/L4 classification capabilities?
>>> Many thanks,
>>> Anna
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> crossbow-discuss mailing list
>>> crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/crossbow-discuss
>> --
>>
>> # telnet (650)-786-6759 (x86759)
>> Connected to Solaris.Sun.COM.
>> login: Lu, Yunsong
>> Last login: January 2, 2007 from beyond.sfbay
>> Yunsong.Lu at Sun.COM    v1.04    Since Mon Dec. 22, 2003
>> [Roamer at Solaris Networking]# cd ..
> _______________________________________________
> crossbow-discuss mailing list
> crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/crossbow-discuss

-- 
Sunay Tripathi
Distinguished Engineer
Solaris Core Operating System
Sun MicroSystems Inc.

Solaris Networking:     http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/networking
Project Crossbow:       http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/crossbow

Sunay Tripathi wrote:
> I don''t think it has been ported yet to Crossbow (but perhaps
> Paul or someone from Solarfare can comment). There is a
> working driver with Nevada.
> 
We have a Nevada GLDv3 driver in test for the Solarstorm NICs at the 
moment. I will investigate crossbow APIs for utilizing the Solarstorms 
h/w classification and virtualization once crossbow delivers into ON 
(i.e. these APIs become a little more fixed).
> BTW, the NICs Roamer mentioned below are the one that already
> have (or will soon have) a driver for Crossbow. There are other
> NICs like newer Broadcom NICs, and NICs like Solarfare that
> should also work. In addition, older Intel and Broadcom
> NICs supported by e1000g and bge drivers have some classification
> capability.
> 
> Since Crossbow has a fully functional pseudo H/W layer (which has
> a more powerful S/W classification and Rx/Tx softrings), any
> GLDv3 NIC can be used with Crossbow. Legacy DLPI NICs can be
> converted in GLDv3 NICs by softmac project (part of Clearview)
> so in short, any NIC which has a Solaris driver should work with
> Crossbow.
> 
> Cheers,
> Sunay
> 
> Fischer, Anna wrote:
>> Have you already had success using Solarflare NICs
(http://www.solarflare.com/products/solarstorm.pdf) with Crossbow?
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Roamer.Lu at sun.com [mailto:Roamer.Lu at sun.com] On Behalf
Of Yunsong
>>> (Roamer) Lu
>>> Sent: 07 April 2008 23:19
>>> To: Fischer, Anna
>>> Cc: crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>> Subject: Re: [crossbow-discuss] NICs that provide full support for
>>> Crossbow?
>>>
>>> It''s hard to say "fully" support, since the
architecture is designed to
>>> handle various hardware implementations by defining flexible
capability
>>> negotiation interfaces.
>>> Simply, the following hardwares can support Crosbow architecture
pretty
>>> well:
>>>   * Neptune 10G/1G (Sun)
>>>   * Xframe 2/E/VC 10G (Neterion)
>>>   * Oplin 10G (Intel)
>>>   * Zoar 1G (Intel)
>>>
>>> There are also some other NICs which have many virtualization
feature
>>> in
>>> place.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Roamer
>>>
>>>
>>> Fischer, Anna wrote:
>>>> Do you have a list of NICs you know of that fully support the
>>> Crossbow architecture, e.g. that they provide multiple HW TX/RX
rings,
>>> MSI-X and some L3/L4 classification capabilities?
>>>> Many thanks,
>>>> Anna
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> crossbow-discuss mailing list
>>>> crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
>>>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/crossbow-discuss
>>> --
>>>
>>> # telnet (650)-786-6759 (x86759)
>>> Connected to Solaris.Sun.COM.
>>> login: Lu, Yunsong
>>> Last login: January 2, 2007 from beyond.sfbay
>>> Yunsong.Lu at Sun.COM    v1.04    Since Mon Dec. 22, 2003
>>> [Roamer at Solaris Networking]# cd ..
>> _______________________________________________
>> crossbow-discuss mailing list
>> crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
>> http://mail.opensolaris.org/mailman/listinfo/crossbow-discuss
> 
>

On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Yunsong (Roamer) Lu <roamer at sun.com>
wrote:
> It''s hard to say "fully" support, since the architecture
is designed to
>  handle various hardware implementations by defining flexible capability
>  negotiation interfaces.
Will there be a way for administrators to display the hardware capabilities?

- Ryan
--
UNIX Administrator
http://prefetch.net

Ryan,

Matty wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 7, 2008 at 6:19 PM, Yunsong (Roamer) Lu <roamer at
sun.com> wrote:
> 
>> It''s hard to say "fully" support, since the
architecture is designed to
>>  handle various hardware implementations by defining flexible
capability
>>  negotiation interfaces.
> 
> Will there be a way for administrators to display the hardware
capabilities?
Yes, we have an open RFE that will allow someone to see the H/W 
capabilities and what resources are in use with which VNIC or flow.
It is not implemented yet.

Cheers,
Sunay
> 
> - Ryan
> --
> UNIX Administrator
> http://prefetch.net
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> crossbow-discuss at opensolaris.org
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-- 
Sunay Tripathi
Distinguished Engineer
Solaris Core Operating System
Sun MicroSystems Inc.

Solaris Networking:     http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/networking
Project Crossbow:       http://www.opensolaris.org/os/project/crossbow