compiz - Oct 2007 - [ANNOUNCE] compiz-0.6.2

Hi,

A new compiz release 0.6.2 is now available from:

http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/compiz-0.6.2.tar.gz

    which can be verified with:


http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/compiz-0.6.2.tar.gz.sha1
        ab5ecad856049a12a803fe6c94c3e55cdfcb5f68  compiz-0.6.2.tar.gz


http://xorg.freedesktop.org/archive/individual/app/compiz-0.6.2.tar.gz.sha1.asc
        (signed by Danny Baumann)

  Additionally, a git clone of the source tree:

        git clone git://git.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/app/compiz

    will include a signed compiz-0.6.2 tag which points to a commit
named:
        111d5994a8b5a0a3b4b8bf12b566dcd2a7c51d30

    which can be verified with:
        git verify-tag compiz-0.6.2

    and can be checked out with a command such as:
        git checkout -b build compiz-0.6.2

WHAT'S NEW SINCE 0.6.0
=====================
Support for automatically starting one decorator per screen.

Various stacking problem fixes.

Fixes for various focus issues.

Minor other bug fixes.

Regards,

Danny

Changes since compiz-0.6.0:

Danny Baumann (26):
      Post-release version increment.
      We always need to restack windows on map. Newly created windows are placed
on top of the stack first, which is not desired for some windows that may be
denied focus (such as desktop windows).
      Send synthetic configure notify events where needed according to ICCCM
chapter 4.1.5.
      glGetString is allowed to return NULL in case an error happened, so avoid
crashing in this case and bail out instead.
      An aboveId of None means that the window was placed on bottom of the
stack, so also update the linked list accordingly.
      Don't restack desktop windows. They are placed correctly by
updateWindowAttributes.
      Always use the old geometry passed to addWindowSizeChanges for
comparisons.
      Fix handling of ConfigureRequest events with CWStackMode set, but without
CWSibling set.
      Correct handling of grab window in case it is destroyed.
      Fix findLowestSiblingBelow function for desktop windows.
      Immediately update the internal stack representation on stack changes
caused by MapRequest events.
      Don't prevent focus for desktop and dock windows on arrival of a
_NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW message.
      Use client message timestamp rather than window user time when processing
focus stealing prevention on _NET_ACTIVE_WINDOW messages.
      Update saved window coordinates when window is resized by some client.
      Clear all coordinates that match the server coordinates from the configure
request mask to make sure a synthetic configure notify event is sent whenever
needed.
      We have to send the WM_TAKE_FOCUS message even if we directly set the
input focus.
      Always allow focus for active window.
      Prevent wobbling when shading maximized windows.
      Fix in-viewport calculation.
      Use real screen number rather than 0.
      Use real screen number rather than 0.
      Get private pointer for the current screen.
      Run external commands with a DISPLAY string adjusted for the screen number
that was passed to runCommand.
      putenv doesn't work properly with dynamically allocated strings that
are free'd right after the putenv call.
      Add NEWS entry for 0.6.2 release.
      Bump version.

Tomas Carnecky (1):
      Start window decorator on all screens.

Hi Danny,

This release has still the "flipping window" problem I described a
while back
(mail from 25.8.)

When moving a window fast to the left screen, so the cube spins, the window 
seems to "jump" to the other side of the screen and flip back.

-- 
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Hi Guys,
 
I have been thinking of a new style of interface that could be added to Compiz. 
Essentially, rather than having a desktop, the user would be presented with a
space in which to work.  This space would be several meters wide in real terms
and the user could navigate the space in a similar fashion to a 3D game.
 
Windows could be grabbed and thrown throughout the space, providing a very large
workspace.  This would also allow the user to physically arrange Windows in the
space according to particular tasks or functions.  A simple double-click of a
Window would cause it to snap into full 2D view were the application can be
worked upon.
 
The concept of multiple desktops, could be implemented as multiple spaces. 
Given the network transparency of X, it would also allow for the concept of a
public space.  A public space would be a desktop that is shared either across a
LAN or Internet.  This has both business and personal applications.  In terms of
business, it can be used for presentations, reviewing designs, etc.  In terms of
personal use, it would open a new area to social networking, desktop surfing. 
End users could store images, videos and a range of interactive items that
members of the public can view or download.
 
I realise that this can prove to be a bandwidth hog, but like everything in
computer world, this will only improve with time and become less of an issue.
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This is an interesting idea.  How would the user control how the windows
move in the depth dimension?  Would the user actually "walk" around
such a
space?  With such a large space, how would one get to a particular window
quickly, i.e. is there still a switcher?

A 2D slice of such a space reminds me a lot of the current "Wall"
plugin
that compiz has, and is one of my favorites.



On 10/18/07, Mark McCarron <markmccarron_itt at hotmail.com>
wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> I have been thinking of a new style of interface that could be added to
> Compiz.  Essentially, rather than having a desktop, the user would be
> presented with a space in which to work.  This space would be several
meters
> wide in real terms and the user could navigate the space in a similar
> fashion to a 3D game.
>
> Windows could be grabbed and thrown throughout the space, providing a very
> large workspace.  This would also allow the user to physically arrange
> Windows in the space according to particular tasks or functions.  A simple
> double-click of a Window would cause it to snap into full 2D view were the
> application can be worked upon.
>
> The concept of multiple desktops, could be implemented as multiple
> spaces.  Given the network transparency of X, it would also allow for the
> concept of a public space.  A public space would be a desktop that is
shared
> either across a LAN or Internet.  This has both business and personal
> applications.  In terms of business, it can be used for presentations,
> reviewing designs, etc.  In terms of personal use, it would open a new area
> to social networking, desktop surfing.  End users could store images,
videos
> and a range of interactive items that members of the public can view or
> download.
>
> I realise that this can prove to be a bandwidth hog, but like everything
> in computer world, this will only improve with time and become less of an
> issue.
>
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That's why I selected a black void and standard meshes as a basic design. 
When it comes to cross-OS transitions, these items can be transferred from one
machine to another.  Open standards will allow for cross-communication allowing
users to observe each other.  The only difference between using Compiz/X, or
another OS will be the amount that you will be required to download.
 
As an example, a Compiz/X user connecting to another Compiz/X user will be able
to use the network transparency of the host it is connecting to.  This will
allow them to observe the remote desktop.  The connecting client will upload an
avatar to the host to represent that connection, or for security reasons select
a pre-defined avatar.  From this point, it is just a matter of exchanging state
information to update the avatars positions, actions, etc.
 
Now lets say we have a Windows machine connecting to a Compiz/X host.  At
present, using the network transparency of X is not an option.  A possible
solution is to transfer the contents to the Windows client and have them render
it locally.  As with the above solution, its then a matter of exchanging state
information for the avatars.
 
Consider this a short-term solution for incompatible systems and low-bandwidth
scenarios.  In the longer term, a unified protocol would be used to bridge
Compiz/X with Terminal Services providing an open standard for network
transparency.  The natural evolution from this point, will be a form of network
transparency for the web.


Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 07:54:41 -0400From: vperetokin at gmail.comTo:
markmccarron_itt at hotmail.comSubject: Re: [compiz] Feature RequestCompiz'
development is also much more accelerated than Croquet's, from what it seems
like.But, Croquet runs on all platforms, whereas Compiz only on X, which as far
as I know is Linux only. That limits our scope a lot (unless Compiz can run
inside a VM?).
On 10/22/07, Mark McCarron <markmccarron_itt at hotmail.com> wrote: 

Personally, I feel that Croquet would be overkill.  Its a good platform for
developers, or even companies with specific needs, but a 3D desktop does not
require all the features of Croquet.  Croquet is a full multi-purpose 3D engine,
a 3D desktop needs to be light-weight, responsive and provide only the features
that are absolutely required.  The ability to display, arrange and redirect
input to objects is all that is required in addition to being able to navigate
in the environment.
> Date: Sun, 21 Oct 2007 20:07:16 +0200> From: rastamasta at gmx.de>
To: compiz at lists.freedesktop.org
> Subject: Re: [compiz] Feature Request> > Am Fri, 19 Oct 2007 08:02:47
-0400> schrieb "Vadim Peretokin" < vperetokin at
gmail.com>:> > > I had a similar idea, but I think they said it
wasn't too feasible > > much on the forums.> > > > Why do
you capitalize "window" though?> > > > I really like your
business applications for this - they really do> > sound very good.
This'll be excellent. > > > i guess what you want is this>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opencroquet . this approach is platform>
independent, which is normally what you want to have for> collaborative
tools.> it's probably better to work on opencroquet if you like the idea
than> to start from scratch - see the history and the companies > involved
with it> > cheers> > > > On 10/19/07, Mark McCarron <
markmccarron_itt at hotmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > Good
questions. I have a few suggestions that may help, I'm sure> > >
the Compiz developers will be able to structure the controls much > > >
better. So, take this as a basis from which to begin.> > >> >
> There would be two basic modes, the first mode would be free space,>
> > that is, your mouse guides you through the desktop space. Upon >
> > selecting a window, you would enter the second mode, the mouse>
> > controls would now act upon the selected Window. A simple> >
> left-click in free space would return the user to the first mode. > >
>> > > I would expect the user to be able walk around the
environment> > > similar to any FPS. Movement can either be provided by
a mouse> > > click providing acceleration, or via keyboard controls
again > > > similar to any FPS.> > >> > > As windows
are objects, perhaps they should have a small control on> > > the
border of the windows that can be manipulated by the mouse. > > > This
control would allow the user to alter each of dimensions> > >
independently. A small clickable X,Y,Z object would work well.> > >
This control could be expanded to allow for rotation and scaling of > >
> the object.> > >> > > A quick switch utility is something
that is definitely required.> > > Whilst the freedom aspect is good,
the desktop must provide a> > > productive environment. I like the wall
utility too, I find it > > > very handy. I would expect this to look at
the space from above> > > and provide the user with a sense of where
each window is located> > > as well as a bitmap preview.> > >
> > > There should also be support for the direct loading and rendering
of> > > meshes. This is both for decoration and as a tool for work>
> > environments. Collaborative design work, even across multiple >
> > vendors, would become very easy. Architects would be able to work>
> > on designs with real-time client input, car designers would be
able> > > to work as team, etc. I'm not suggesting a full editing
> > > environment, just a basic viewer that supports major formats.>
> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >
>> > >> > > ------------------------------ > > >
Date: Thu, 18 Oct 2007 20:33:58 -0700> > > From: srhlefty at
gmail.com> > > To: markmccarron_itt at hotmail.com; compiz at
lists.freedesktop.org> > > Subject: Re: [compiz] Feature Request>
> >> > > This is an interesting idea. How would the user control
how the> > > windows move in the depth dimension? Would the user
actually > > > "walk" around such a space? With such a large
space, how would one> > > get to a particular window quickly, i.e. is
there still a switcher?> > >> > > A 2D slice of such a space
reminds me a lot of the current "Wall" > > > plugin that
compiz has, and is one of my favorites.> > >> > >> >
>> > > On 10/18/07, *Mark McCarron* < markmccarron_itt at
hotmail.com> wrote:> > >> > > Hi Guys,> > >>
> > I have been thinking of a new style of interface that could be>
> > added to Compiz. Essentially, rather than having a desktop, the >
> > user would be presented with a space in which to work. This space>
> > would be several meters wide in real terms and the user could> >
> navigate the space in a similar fashion to a 3D game. > > >>
> > Windows could be grabbed and thrown throughout the space,
providing> > > a very large workspace. This would also allow the user
to> > > physically arrange Windows in the space according to particular
> > > tasks or functions. A simple double-click of a Window would
cause> > > it to snap into full 2D view were the application can be
worked> > > upon.> > >> > > The concept of multiple
desktops, could be implemented as multiple > > > spaces. Given the
network transparency of X, it would also allow> > > for the concept of
a public space. A public space would be a> > > desktop that is shared
either across a LAN or Internet. This has > > > both business and
personal applications. In terms of business, it> > > can be used for
presentations, reviewing designs, etc. In terms of> > > personal use,
it would open a new area to social networking, > > > desktop surfing.
End users could store images, videos and a range> > > of interactive
items that members of the public can view or> > > download.> >
>> > > I realise that this can prove to be a bandwidth hog, but like
> > > everything in computer world, this will only improve with time
and> > > become less of an issue.> > >> > >
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