CentOS - Jan 2021 - RHEL changes

> On Jan 22, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Nikolaos Milas <nmilas at noa.gr> wrote:
> 
> On 22/1/2021 2:25 ?.?., Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
> 
>> Also, I can still expect they will again change their mind close to
>> 2021's end. In short, I have hard time trusting RH in such a
situation.
> 
Then flee from RedHat AND clones. RedHat can do things making life of clones
hard, different, constantly needing to invest into change. And they may give up.

But it is your decision about your future, and yours to deal with consequences.

Am I not stating the obvious?

Valeri
> That's exactly how I feel too. I don't trust them.
> 
> I think we can expect Rocky Linux to provide a real solution to CentOS
future. We shall know very soon, so let's just wait for a short while.
> 
> There is such a huge (staggering) number of CentOS installed base, esp.
including service providers (hosts etc.), that the market NEEDS a real reliable
successor of CentOS. This need cannot be covered by RHEL new licensing. A real
open source, community solution will be needed; for the time being, Rocky Linux
seems to have the right specs to fill the gap.
> 
> The market itself will finance (through donations) its future, because it
is a real need. A CentOS successor is a real need.
> 
> OL will be last resort, but I believe Rocky Linux will most probably be the
way to go. It displays good momentum, steady progress and great manpower.
> 
> My 2c.
> 
> Nick
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On 22.01.2021 21:08, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>> On Jan 22, 2021, at 6:43 AM, Nikolaos Milas <nmilas at noa.gr>
wrote:
>>
>> On 22/1/2021 2:25 ?.?., Konstantin Boyandin via CentOS wrote:
>>
>>> Also, I can still expect they will again change their mind close to
>>> 2021's end. In short, I have hard time trusting RH in such a
situation.
>>
> 
> Then flee from RedHat AND clones. RedHat can do things making life of
 clones hard, different, constantly needing to invest into change. And they may
 give up.
> 
> But it is your decision about your future, and yours to deal with
 consequences.
> 
> Am I not stating the obvious?
> 
> Valeri
I appreciate your playing Captain Obvious, as well as your polite style 
of trying to shut me up.

Let me play Captain Obvious as well.

The December RH announcement came while I was in a middle of upgrading a 
number of CentOS installations. Switching to different distributions 
might be both time consuming and tricky, especially in case of big 
companies. We already switched many servers/VMs to alternate 
distributions, but there are RHEL-based ones we just can't leave, and 
PITA that RH initiated doesn't help at all.

Actually, I'll make use of that last RH offer on less-critical servers, 
which can be, if required, quickly shut down and re-formatted under 
different distributions.

I assist in maintaining several RHEL installations, and I brought 
several paying customers to RH during those many years. I assume you 
understand that I will express my concerns without asking anyone's 
permission.

Thanks again.

-- 
Sincerely,

Konstantin Boyandin
system administrator (ProWide Labs Ltd. - IPHost Network Monitor)