> Le 21/01/2021 ? 23:30, Scott Robbins a ?crit?: >> People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify >> what is, in the end, an emotional decision. > > There is, of course, the possibility to go beyond that. For example, I am > not > exactly fond of Oracle as a company, for reasons you probably know as good > as > me. They did some horrible things to Solaris, MySQL and Java, their CEOIMHO they didn't do anything horrible to us. They just wasted a lot of money buying companies and then didn't continue the open source developments in a way which worked for the community. However the project are not dead by now, they just run under a different name these days.> supported Trump, etc. But it also happens that they do have one of theIMHO it's a feature of something called democracy that even CEOs are free to support whoever they want - without asking anyone and like everybody else.> better > maintained RHEL clones out there, with fast updates and an excellent > documentation.For me OL works very well. I've just modified the migration/installation so that it removes all OL specific stuff like UEK and changes things back to upstream EL versions. If I ever regret the move to OL I know know quite well how to migrate to another clone. And I mean a full migration which changes every bit. Simon
On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 16:15:28 +0100 Simon Matter wrote:> OL specific stuff like UEKHere might be a good place to ask a question that I haven't really found a definitive answer to. What, exactly, is the Unbreakable Enterprise Kernel? RHEL/Centos 8 has kernel version 4.18. The current Fedora kernel is 5.8. The current kernel listed on the main page of kernel.org is 5.10. Where does UEK 5.14.x fit in here? Is it a fixed/enhanced/customized version of the current kernel on kernel.org, is it something to do with Fedora, or is it something entirely different and unrelated that runs on Oracle's own versioning scheme? And on that note, what does UEK do for you that the standard RHEL kernel doesn't? Would the average schmoe like me actually gain anything by running UEK over the standard Redhat kernel if I'm not running stuff like the Oracle database? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Real D 3D Digital Cinema ~ www.melvilletheatre.com
On 1/22/21 9:15 AM, Simon Matter wrote:>> Le 21/01/2021 ? 23:30, Scott Robbins a ?crit?: >>> People pull up all sorts of technical reasons to justify >>> what is, in the end, an emotional decision. >> >> There is, of course, the possibility to go beyond that. For example, I am >> not >> exactly fond of Oracle as a company, for reasons you probably know as good >> as >> me. They did some horrible things to Solaris, MySQL and Java, their CEO > > IMHO they didn't do anything horrible to us. They just wasted a lot of > money buying companies and then didn't continue the open source > developments in a way which worked for the community. However the project > are not dead by now, they just run under a different name these days. > >> supported Trump, etc. But it also happens that they do have one of the > > IMHO it's a feature of something called democracy that even CEOs are free > to support whoever they want - without asking anyone and like everybody > else. >Agreeing about freedom of opinion, but can not help to mention: freedom of speech belongs more to liberty, not democracy. Democracy (decision of majority...) is in its essense a tyranny of majority over minority. My apologies for adding to political discussion on technical list, which better be avoided, so not continuing it and inviting others spare the list of politics, religion, and other non-technical issues. Valeri>> better >> maintained RHEL clones out there, with fast updates and an excellent >> documentation. > > For me OL works very well. I've just modified the migration/installation > so that it removes all OL specific stuff like UEK and changes things back > to upstream EL versions. If I ever regret the move to OL I know know quite > well how to migrate to another clone. And I mean a full migration which > changes every bit. > > Simon > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++