On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 08:32, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it> wrote:> Il 2021-01-22 13:43 Nikolaos Milas ha scritto: > > I think we can expect Rocky Linux to provide a real solution to CentOS > > future. We shall know very soon, so let's just wait for a short while. > > Hi, there are any specific reasons to not use Spingdale Linux? > As far I know, it already ships a RHEL 8.3 clone. > >My guess is that no one wants to go to a new OS alone. They want to go with all their mailing list buddies but they also want to make a STATEMENT to stick it in the eye of Red Hat for doing this. Going to a staid and quiet existing OS doesn't make that statement. Going to a competing company like Oracle does have the stick in the eye, but it already has its own community and ways of doing things in an Oracle way. A lot of grumpy old sysadmins are a drop in the bucket. Now Rocky has no history, no existing community and a bunch of old sysadmins could jump in and be just like they were elsewhere. So try and get everyone you know to go there.. [it also doesn't exist so if it doesn't work out you won't have moved your systems to it and then found you had to move it something else.]> Thanks. > > -- > Danti Gionatan > Supporto Tecnico > Assyoma S.r.l. - www.assyoma.it > email: g.danti at assyoma.it - info at assyoma.it > GPG public key ID: FF5F32A8 > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- Stephen J Smoogen.
On 1/22/21 9:10 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:> My guess is that no one wants to go to a new OS alone. They want to go > with all their mailing list buddies but they also want to make a > STATEMENT to stick it in the eye of Red Hat for doing this. Going to a > staid and quiet existing OS doesn't make that statement. Going to a > competing company like Oracle does have the stick in the eye, but it > already has its own community and ways of doing things in an Oracle way.Well said.? The 'in your face!' attitude of 'sticking it to The Man' is pretty juvenile. I'm going to be transitioning to the most staid and quiet of those choices myself.? It will be like starting over from scratch in terms of community, and at this point in my career I think that's ok.? If the need were to arise like it arose for me back in 1999 when I stepped up in Red Hat Land to maintain the upstream PostgreSQL RPMs then I would step right in as a newcomer and build a reputation in that community.? There's something to be said for starting from scratch with a nearly new reputation; while your successes won't follow you, neither will your failures!
On 1/22/21 9:10 AM, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:> On Fri, 22 Jan 2021 at 08:32, Gionatan Danti <g.danti at assyoma.it> wrote: > >> Il 2021-01-22 13:43 Nikolaos Milas ha scritto: >>> I think we can expect Rocky Linux to provide a real solution to CentOS >>> future. We shall know very soon, so let's just wait for a short while. >> >> Hi, there are any specific reasons to not use Spingdale Linux? >> As far I know, it already ships a RHEL 8.3 clone. >> >> > My guess is that no one wants to go to a new OS alone. They want to go with > all their mailing list buddies but they also want to make a STATEMENT to > stick it in the eye of Red Hat for doing this. Going to a staid and quiet > existing OS doesn't make that statement. Going to a competing company like > Oracle does have the stick in the eye, but it already has its own community > and ways of doing things in an Oracle way. A lot of grumpy old sysadmins > are a drop in the bucket. Now Rocky has no history, no existing community > and a bunch of old sysadmins could jump in and be just like they were > elsewhere. So try and get everyone you know to go there.. [it also doesn't > exist so if it doesn't work out you won't have moved your systems to it and > then found you had to move it something else.] >Well, y'know, right now is sorta like after RH 9, when suddenly there was this RHEL, and IIRC, you could get it for free for home/small use, then suddenly it was "nope, gotta pay". Been here before, not happy. mark