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On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne <rpyne at kinfolk.org>
wrote:
> Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS,
> with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then
> IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky
> rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same.
>
> I've been around the Linux world for many years and looked at and tried
> many distributions. Most of them are either unstable or bloated, or both.
>
> The only thing I'd trust Oracle to do is screw the computing community
> any way possible.
>
>
I agree. My current plan is to recommend we stay on CentOS 7 and switch to
Rocky Linux for version 8, maybe in a year or so.

Worst case scenario is Red Hat kills CentOS 7 (which would *not* surprise
me at all now) and we need to bridge the gap with Oracle.

My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart
from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a
while.

We shall see...


> On 12/11/2020 7:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> > Le 11/12/2020 ? 14:09, Liam O'Toole a ?crit :
> >> OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or
hell to
> trust them.
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now.
> >
> > :o)
> >
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On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at
cfa.harvard.edu>
wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne <rpyne at
kinfolk.org>
> wrote:
>
> > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS,
> > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then
> > IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind
Rocky
> > rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same.
> >
> > I've been around the Linux world for many years and looked at and
tried
> > many distributions. Most of them are either unstable or bloated, or
both.
> >
> > The only thing I'd trust Oracle to do is screw the computing
community
> > any way possible.
> >
> >
> I agree. My current plan is to recommend we stay on CentOS 7 and switch to
> Rocky Linux for version 8, maybe in a year or so.
>
> Worst case scenario is Red Hat kills CentOS 7 (which would *not* surprise
> me at all now) and we need to bridge the gap with Oracle.
>
> My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker,
apart
> from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for
a
> while.
>
> We shall see...
>
>
>
> > On 12/11/2020 7:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:
> > > Le 11/12/2020 ? 14:09, Liam O'Toole a ?crit :
> > >> OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven
or hell to
> > trust them.
> > >
> > > As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now.
> > >
> > > :o)
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > CentOS at centos.org
> > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
> >
>
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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> email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu
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I am not so sure that Oracle will do the same as RedHat ... as it has done
with other Communities that it has bought, I would honestly prefer
something 100% community and that it gives us the necessary business tools
to move to production 100% compatible systems, I think RockyLinux and what
CLoudLinux intends to do is good and gives a wide range of possibilities to
choose from.
-- 
Victor

Le 11/12/2020 ? 17:14, Phelps, Matthew a ?crit?:
> My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker,
apart
> from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for
a
> while.
I've just had a conversation with one of the Oracle Linux guys. I can't
really
quote him publicly, but since I've already had some good experiences with OL
ten years ago (when I installed the local motorway company's servers), I
guess
I'll just adopt a pragmatic approach and gradually move my servers to Oracle
Linux.

BTW, migration script works nicely on 7.x and 8.x:

https://github.com/oracle/centos2ol

Cheers,

Niki

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