Victor Pereira
2020-Dec-11 16:30 UTC
[CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu> wrote:> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne <rpyne at kinfolk.org> > wrote: > > > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then > > IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky > > rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same. > > > > I've been around the Linux world for many years and looked at and tried > > many distributions. Most of them are either unstable or bloated, or both. > > > > The only thing I'd trust Oracle to do is screw the computing community > > any way possible. > > > > > I agree. My current plan is to recommend we stay on CentOS 7 and switch to > Rocky Linux for version 8, maybe in a year or so. > > Worst case scenario is Red Hat kills CentOS 7 (which would *not* surprise > me at all now) and we need to bridge the gap with Oracle. > > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a > while. > > We shall see... > > > > > On 12/11/2020 7:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > > Le 11/12/2020 ? 14:09, Liam O'Toole a ?crit : > > >> OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to > > trust them. > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now. > > > > > > :o) > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > -- > > *Matt Phelps* > > *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* > > (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) > > Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian > > > 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 > email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu > > > cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube > > > | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >I am not so sure that Oracle will do the same as RedHat ... as it has done with other Communities that it has bought, I would honestly prefer something 100% community and that it gives us the necessary business tools to move to production 100% compatible systems, I think RockyLinux and what CLoudLinux intends to do is good and gives a wide range of possibilities to choose from. -- Victor
Phelps, Matthew
2020-Dec-11 16:36 UTC
[CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux
On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:30 AM Victor Pereira <victor.pereira at unix.cl> wrote:> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu> > wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne <rpyne at kinfolk.org> > > wrote: > > > > > Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, > > > with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then > > > IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky > > > rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same. > > > > > > I've been around the Linux world for many years and looked at and tried > > > many distributions. Most of them are either unstable or bloated, or > both. > > > > > > The only thing I'd trust Oracle to do is screw the computing community > > > any way possible. > > > > > > > > I agree. My current plan is to recommend we stay on CentOS 7 and switch > to > > Rocky Linux for version 8, maybe in a year or so. > > > > Worst case scenario is Red Hat kills CentOS 7 (which would *not* surprise > > me at all now) and we need to bridge the gap with Oracle. > > > > My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart > > from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a > > while. > > > > We shall see... > > > > > > > > > On 12/11/2020 7:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > > > Le 11/12/2020 ? 14:09, Liam O'Toole a ?crit : > > > >> OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell > to > > > trust them. > > > > > > > > As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now. > > > > > > > > :o) > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CentOS mailing list > > > CentOS at centos.org > > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Matt Phelps* > > > > *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* > > > > (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) > > > > Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian > > > > > > 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 > > email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu > > > > > > cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter > > <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube < > http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube > > > > > | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > > > I am not so sure that Oracle will do the same as RedHat ... as it has done > with other Communities that it has bought, I would honestly prefer > something 100% community and that it gives us the necessary business tools > to move to production 100% compatible systems, I think RockyLinux and what > CLoudLinux intends to do is good and gives a wide range of possibilities to > choose from. > -- > Victor >Totally agree. -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>
Leon Fauster
2020-Dec-11 16:37 UTC
[CentOS] Announcing Open-sourced & Community-Driven RHEL Fork by CloudLinux
Am 11.12.20 um 17:30 schrieb Victor Pereira:> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 1:15 PM Phelps, Matthew <mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu> > wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 11, 2020 at 11:07 AM Richard B. Pyne <rpyne at kinfolk.org> >> wrote: >> >>> Considering that it is being spearheaded by the originator of CentOS, >>> with the original goals of CentOS (before being swallowed by RH then >>> IBM) as a stable, enterprise OS, I'm putting my support behind Rocky >>> rockylinux.org and would urge others to do the same. >>> >>> I've been around the Linux world for many years and looked at and tried >>> many distributions. Most of them are either unstable or bloated, or both. >>> >>> The only thing I'd trust Oracle to do is screw the computing community >>> any way possible. >>> >>> >> I agree. My current plan is to recommend we stay on CentOS 7 and switch to >> Rocky Linux for version 8, maybe in a year or so. >> >> Worst case scenario is Red Hat kills CentOS 7 (which would *not* surprise >> me at all now) and we need to bridge the gap with Oracle. >> >> My gut feeling is Oracle doesn't see Oracle Linux as a money maker, apart >> from getting some support contracts from it, so they'll leave it be for a >> while. >> >> We shall see... >> >> >> >>> On 12/11/2020 7:01 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: >>>> Le 11/12/2020 ? 14:09, Liam O'Toole a ?crit : >>>>> OEL = Oracle Enterprise Linux? There is no reason in heaven or hell to >>> trust them. >>>> >>>> As far as I'm concerned, they're the good guys now. >>>> >>>> :o) >>>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CentOS mailing list >>> CentOS at centos.org >>> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >>> >> >> >> -- >> >> *Matt Phelps* >> >> *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* >> >> (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) >> >> Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian >> >> >> 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 >> email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu >> >> >> cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter >> <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube >>> >> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter> >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >> > > I am not so sure that Oracle will do the same as RedHat ... as it has done > with other Communities that it has bought, I would honestly prefer > something 100% community and that it gives us the necessary business tools > to move to production 100% compatible systems, I think RockyLinux and what > CLoudLinux intends to do is good and gives a wide range of possibilities to > choose from.Some one mentioned the already available Springdale Linux OS made by Princeton University and IAS: https://puias.math.ias.edu/ -- Leon