Matthew Miller
2020-Dec-10 17:09 UTC
[CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +0000, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:> That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream > updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why nearly > no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) to > tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only > those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready?Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for their deployment in a large-scale academic setting. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader
Phelps, Matthew
2020-Dec-10 17:11 UTC
[CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:09 PM Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org> wrote:> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +0000, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL > (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote: > > That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream > > updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why > nearly > > no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) > to > > tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only > > those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready? > > Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for > their > deployment in a large-scale academic setting. > >Do you not see the huge irony here? Why should a sysadmin have to do this? We shouldn't. -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 11:09 AM Matthew Miller <mattdm at mattdm.org> wrote:> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +0000, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL > (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote: > > That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream > > updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why > nearly > > no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) > to > > tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only > > those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready? > > Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for > their > deployment in a large-scale academic setting. > > -- > Matthew Miller > <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> > Fedora Project Leader > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centosSMH, really lets jump through hoops based on an arbitrary decision made by somebody or somone, who really knows since no one has said how the decision was reached. I'm pretty sure that most are just going to pack up and find another home, if I have to spend time doing something i'd rather it be permanent vs who knows what decision is going to be made next by RH.
Leon Fauster
2020-Dec-10 18:07 UTC
[CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?
Am 10.12.20 um 18:09 schrieb Matthew Miller:> On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +0000, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote: >> That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream >> updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why nearly >> no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) to >> tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only >> those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready? > > Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for their > deployment in a large-scale academic setting. >Will we know that point in time everytime before releasing? Because on release day the Stream repo is already a step forward. Albeit when this works then the situation are more worse then with CentOS Linux release work and the time shift compared to RHEL release. Why? Because 6 month updates are accumulated and not installed? Even cherry-picking is crazy. The audience here needs something different - but this was already stated elsewhere! -- Leon