Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC (USA)
2020-Dec-10 17:02 UTC
[CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?
> On Dec 10, 2020, at 11:50 AM, me at tdiehl.org wrote: > > So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling release > and we will never know what we are really running. Is this correct?That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why nearly no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) to tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready? Noam
Phelps, Matthew
2020-Dec-10 17:06 UTC
[CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 12:02 PM Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS <centos at centos.org> wrote:> > On Dec 10, 2020, at 11:50 AM, me at tdiehl.org wrote: > > > > So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling > release > > and we will never know what we are really running. Is this correct? > > That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream > updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why nearly > no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) to > tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only > those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready? >That's called CentOS 8, and it's been killed. -- *Matt Phelps* *Information Technology Specialist, Systems Administrator* (Computation Facility, Smithsonian Astrophysical Observatory) Center for Astrophysics | Harvard & Smithsonian 60 Garden Street | MS 39 | Cambridge, MA 02138 email: mphelps at cfa.harvard.edu cfa.harvard.edu | Facebook <http://cfa.harvard.edu/facebook> | Twitter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/twitter> | YouTube <http://cfa.harvard.edu/youtube> | Newsletter <http://cfa.harvard.edu/newsletter>
Matthew Miller
2020-Dec-10 17:09 UTC
[CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?
On Thu, Dec 10, 2020 at 05:02:17PM +0000, Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS wrote:> That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream > updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why nearly > no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) to > tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only > those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready?Yeah, I have some sysadmin friends already working on exactly this for their deployment in a large-scale academic setting. -- Matthew Miller <mattdm at fedoraproject.org> Fedora Project Leader
Leon Fauster
2020-Dec-10 17:59 UTC
[CentOS] CentOS Stream from bottom works, what is this?
Am 10.12.20 um 18:02 schrieb Bernstein, Noam CIV USN NRL (6393) Washington DC (USA) via CentOS:>> On Dec 10, 2020, at 11:50 AM, me at tdiehl.org wrote: >> >> So if I understand this correctly, centos8 + will basically be a rolling release >> and we will never know what we are really running. Is this correct? > > That's my understanding, iff you automatically install all CentOS stream updates the moment they become available. But I still don't see why nearly no one is going for the idea that there be some way (ideally automated) to tag all the packages at the point of the RedHat release, and install only those from Stream once the RHEL release is ready? >Evaluating all the fragmented informations (another topic; communication to community) I get the impression that CXStream will never have a state that reflects RHEL point releases (not 100%). Why? Well CVE are one reason and another will be the different parts that are moving differently forward and the late parts (CVE coming after RHEL release) and so on ... -- Leon