On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> CentOS is a desktop distribution in the sense that chickens fly and horses > swim. Of course you can turn it into a full-blown bells-and-whistles desktop > by fine-tuning the configuration and adding lots of third-party stuff. I've > done this myself for years, here for example: > > https://www.microlinux.fr/poste-de-travail-entreprise-centos-7-kde/ > > On the other hand, CentOS out of the box is a rather frustrating experience > on the desktop.I've always disagreed with this view, however common it appears to be. RHEL is sold as an Enterprise OS for Server, Cloud, Desktop, Laptop. CentOS surely shouldn't be seen any differently. What is it that makes CentOS a bad desktop OS? I can install CentOS 8 on my laptop now, with a perfectly usable desktop, and 10 years of support. Google Chrome runs just fine, and I can use containers via singularity on top for anything exotic. What exactly am I missing out on by not running something else? jh
Well kind of. for example i had to do the following stuff for my laptop -add epel repository so i can install keepassxc -manual install eclipse -enable rpmfusion in order to have --media support on my browser and --install totem codecs in order for it to play video files With flatpak i think centos is more desktop friendly. The rest of the apps where installed through flatpak so it was quite easy. Most of these apps arent on Centos repositories so without flatpak it would be a bit difficult. Also with flatpak you can have newer versions of the apps that could be a problem. Besides that i have to say. flatpak itself is really old and it doesn't support my yubikey. Thats the reason i had to install keepassxc through epel repository and not flatpak. I do hope flatpak gets updated on a future point release. Another problem i currently have is that evolution after suspense sometimes it seems to brake. It happened 2 times last weeks but i could not reproduce. I previous had debian 9 and 10. If i compare these 2 i have to say. Centos 8 had a bit less configuration for laptop compared with debian 9 but a bit more compared to debian 10. I guess it all depends what you want to do with your laptop. For basic usage it seems fine. Anyway for the time being it seems usable. But i wouldn't recommend it to someone who use linux for the first time. I would suggest ubuntu or something like this. On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 14:18 +0100, John Hodrien wrote:> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > > CentOS is a desktop distribution in the sense that chickens fly and > > horses > > swim. Of course you can turn it into a full-blown bells-and- > > whistles desktop > > by fine-tuning the configuration and adding lots of third-party > > stuff. I've > > done this myself for years, here for example: > > > > https://www.microlinux.fr/poste-de-travail-entreprise-centos-7-kde/ > > > > On the other hand, CentOS out of the box is a rather frustrating > > experience > > on the desktop. > > I've always disagreed with this view, however common it appears to > be. > > RHEL is sold as an Enterprise OS for Server, Cloud, Desktop, > Laptop. CentOS > surely shouldn't be seen any differently. > > What is it that makes CentOS a bad desktop OS? > > I can install CentOS 8 on my laptop now, with a perfectly usable > desktop, and > 10 years of support. Google Chrome runs just fine, and I can use > containers > via singularity on top for anything exotic. > > What exactly am I missing out on by not running something else? > > jh > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 10/15/19 3:18 PM, John Hodrien wrote:> On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > >> CentOS is a desktop distribution in the sense that chickens fly and >> horses swim. Of course you can turn it into a full-blown >> bells-and-whistles desktop by fine-tuning the configuration and adding >> lots of third-party stuff. I've done this myself for years, here for >> example: >> >> https://www.microlinux.fr/poste-de-travail-entreprise-centos-7-kde/ >> >> On the other hand, CentOS out of the box is a rather frustrating >> experience on the desktop. > > I've always disagreed with this view, however common it appears to be. > > RHEL is sold as an Enterprise OS for Server, Cloud, Desktop, Laptop.? > CentOS > surely shouldn't be seen any differently. > > What is it that makes CentOS a bad desktop OS? > > I can install CentOS 8 on my laptop now, with a perfectly usable > desktop, and > 10 years of support.? Google Chrome runs just fine, and I can use > containers > via singularity on top for anything exotic. > > What exactly am I missing out on by not running something else? >They are talking about a fact that RHEL (and CentOS) do not provide packages that have non-FOSS licenses, like Broadcom drivers, video codecs, flash, etc., and you need 3rd-party repo like Nux-dextop, rpmfusion for those, while almost all other distro's do provide those packages and you only need to select non-FOSS packages from OFFICIALY SUPPORTED repositories.> jh > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant
I forgot to add that i had to change to desktop profile from network- throughput in order to manage to copy my photo files from my external hard disk to my laptop. If i didnt do that my laptop froze. :-! Had to On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 16:02 +0200, Georgios wrote:> Well kind of. > > for example i had to do the following stuff for my laptop > > > -add epel repository so i can install keepassxc > -manual install eclipse > -enable rpmfusion in order to have > --media support on my browser and > --install totem codecs in order for it to play video files > > With flatpak i think centos is more desktop friendly. > The rest of the apps where installed through flatpak so it was quite > easy. Most of these apps arent on Centos repositories so without > flatpak it would be a bit difficult. > Also with flatpak you can have newer versions of the apps that could > be > a problem. > > Besides that i have to say. > > flatpak itself is really old and it doesn't support my yubikey. > Thats the reason i had to install keepassxc through epel repository > and > not flatpak. > I do hope flatpak gets updated on a future point release. > > > Another problem i currently have is that evolution after suspense > sometimes it seems to brake. It happened 2 times last weeks but i > could > not reproduce. > > > I previous had debian 9 and 10. > If i compare these 2 i have to say. > > Centos 8 had a bit less configuration for laptop compared with debian > 9 > but a bit more compared to debian 10. > > I guess it all depends what you want to do with your laptop. > For basic usage it seems fine. > > Anyway for the time being it seems usable. > But i wouldn't recommend it to someone who use linux for the first > time. > I would suggest ubuntu or something like this. > > > > On Tue, 2019-10-15 at 14:18 +0100, John Hodrien wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Oct 2019, Nicolas Kovacs wrote: > > > > > CentOS is a desktop distribution in the sense that chickens fly > > > and > > > horses > > > swim. Of course you can turn it into a full-blown bells-and- > > > whistles desktop > > > by fine-tuning the configuration and adding lots of third-party > > > stuff. I've > > > done this myself for years, here for example: > > > > > > https://www.microlinux.fr/poste-de-travail-entreprise-centos-7-kde/ > > > > > > On the other hand, CentOS out of the box is a rather frustrating > > > experience > > > on the desktop. > > > > I've always disagreed with this view, however common it appears to > > be. > > > > RHEL is sold as an Enterprise OS for Server, Cloud, Desktop, > > Laptop. CentOS > > surely shouldn't be seen any differently. > > > > What is it that makes CentOS a bad desktop OS? > > > > I can install CentOS 8 on my laptop now, with a perfectly usable > > desktop, and > > 10 years of support. Google Chrome runs just fine, and I can use > > containers > > via singularity on top for anything exotic. > > > > What exactly am I missing out on by not running something else? > > > > jh > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos