On 9/25/19 12:06 AM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> But on the desktop, I've switched to OpenSUSE Leap, and I'm a happy > camper now. I can highly recommend it. Sports every major and minor > desktop environment under the sun, and it's a nice blend of semi-rolling > releases based on a rock-solid SLES base. >Why do you need "every major and minor desktop environment under the sun"? I run CentOS desktops/laptops since 5.3 and even rebuilt 70+ packages for it, even Skype rpm. All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that is MATE. All tray icons are visible so I can see if message or mail comes without need to move more then eyeball. And stablity of CentOS makes it best option even though versions of apps are not latest and greatest, it is enough they do the job needed. -- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant
Am 25.09.19 um 08:18 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic:> All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that > is MATE. All tray icons are visible so I can see if message or mail > comes without need to move more then eyeball. And stablity of CentOS > makes it best option even though versions of apps are not latest and > greatest, it is enough they do the job needed.Exactly :) Could not explain better. Rainer
Le 25/09/2019 ? 08:18, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a ?crit :> Why do you need "every major and minor desktop environment under the > sun"? I run CentOS desktops/laptops since 5.3 and even rebuilt 70+ > packages for it, even Skype rpm. > > All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and > that is MATE.In France we call this "voir midi ? sa porte". See noon at your door. I'm a die-hard KDE user, but over the years, I've probably used every DE/WM under the sun (my first one was WindowMaker on Slackware 7.1). Discussing "best DE/WMs" is probably as pointless an exercise as discussing the respective merits of soccer clubs or motorcycle brands. If you like Cinnamon, your best bet is probably Mint. On the other hand, KDE users are probably better off using OpenSUSE or Neon. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'?glise - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Mail : info at microlinux.fr T?l. : 04 66 63 10 32 Mob. : 06 51 80 12 12
Hello, On Wed, 25 Sep 2019 11:33:53 +0200 Rainer Traut <tr.ml at gmx.de> wrote:> Am 25.09.19 um 08:18 schrieb Ljubomir Ljubojevic: > > All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and that > > is MATE. All tray icons are visible so I can see if message or mail > > comes without need to move more then eyeball. And stablity of CentOS > > makes it best option even though versions of apps are not latest and > > greatest, it is enough they do the job needed. > > Exactly :) > Could not explain better.I'm in a total agreement too. Mate (or xfce) on top of CentOS brings me a desktop I can work in. Work means: as a dev station at work - amongst other things because it's close to the RHEL 8 system, which is one of the reference systems we have in our customers community. Works means also: use it as a dev and workstation at home. Long time ago I was using xfce, because it was behaving almost like gnome2 and was able to get gnome applets in its tray (that was a major one), I think it has lost this ability, at least last time I tried it, this was not possible. If Mate will not be available for CentOS 8, I will consider this: - building Mate from the sources myself (yeah, w/ all deps) - xfce or icewm from repositories. For now, I'm postponing my CentOS 8 use until: 1) the live system is available, because I need it to see how it boots and installs on the target systems I have (where CentOS 7 was a total failure - only Ubuntu/Deb were OK), 2) we know if Mate is available or definitely not available from third-party repositories. Regards, -- wwp https://useplaintext.email/ -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 836 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20190925/dae552e3/attachment-0002.sig>
On 9/25/19 12:22 PM, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> Le 25/09/2019 ? 08:18, Ljubomir Ljubojevic a ?crit : >> Why do you need "every major and minor desktop environment under the >> sun"? I run CentOS desktops/laptops since 5.3 and even rebuilt 70+ >> packages for it, even Skype rpm. >> >> All I need for work that feeds me is one good work environment and >> that is MATE. > > In France we call this "voir midi ? sa porte". See noon at your door. > > I'm a die-hard KDE user, but over the years, I've probably used every > DE/WM under the sun (my first one was WindowMaker on Slackware 7.1). > > Discussing "best DE/WMs" is probably as pointless an exercise as > discussing the respective merits of soccer clubs or motorcycle brands.Ohh, I am not openig that can of worms :-) Just like Windows Clasic on Windows 200/XP/7, I liked Gnome 2 on Linux, and logical move, closest thing after Gnome 2 was dropped, was MATE. Shiny icons, transparency and smooth menu's are things I disable because they distract me from actual work. Any DM that fits my work demands I will use without complaining.> > If you like Cinnamon, your best bet is probably Mint. On the other hand, > KDE users are probably better off using OpenSUSE or Neon. > > Cheers, > > Niki >-- Ljubomir Ljubojevic (Love is in the Air) PL Computers Serbia, Europe StarOS, Mikrotik and CentOS/RHEL/Linux consultant