I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using cloud services (or k8s cloud services). What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding or are you just taking care of a single java 6 jboss application that takes care of the companies widget stocks? How are your jobs changing? Cheers, Andrew
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 02:42:19PM +0200, Andrew Holway wrote:> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than > a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using cloud > services (or k8s cloud services). > > What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding or > are you just taking care of a single java 6 jboss application that takes > care of the companies widget stocks?What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 09:16:33AM -0400, Jonathan Billings wrote:> What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud > providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS.On top of that, I often use centos as my base image for Dockerfiles, using the Centos docker repository. While I also use alpine sometimes if I want it really tiny, it is really nice to be able to just rebuild the image against updates and not have to worry as much about underlying API changes breaking my app. -- Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org>
> What OS are your k8s clusters running on? How about your cloud > providers? Mine are on RHEL and CentOS. >I don't know. We use fully managed services from Google. I think its coreOS.> -- > Jonathan Billings <billings at negate.org> > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >
Andrew Holway wrote:> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more > than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using > cloud services (or k8s cloud services). > > What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding or > are you just taking care of a single java 6 jboss application that takes > care of the companies widget stocks? > > How are your jobs changing?Nope. Well... actually, my manager's talking about Ubuntu or maybe even FreeBSD. He's *extremely* upset with RH being so slow - 8 should have been out for some time, for one, and a lot of 7, even with SCL, is far behind, and our researchers want newer software. But most of our Office's work is done in-house. Lots of CentOS and RH, lesser amounts, AFAIK, of ubuntu. Cloud? Why would I want to go back to time-sharing on a mainframe?* mark * Go ahead, explain the difference to me, and if you start to write "but it's many servers", then you don't understand timesharing on a mainframe.
On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 10:18:40AM -0400, mark wrote:> > Nope. Well... actually, my manager's talking about Ubuntu or maybe even > FreeBSD. He's *extremely* upset with RH being so slow - 8 should have been > out for some time, for one, and a lot of 7, even with SCL, is far behind,It should have been? Says who? John -- You may know how little God thinks of money by observing on what bad and contemptible characters he often bestows it. -- Thomas Guthrie (1803-1873), Scottish divine and philanthropist, Man and the Gospel (1865) -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20190424/b86c6b30/attachment-0002.sig>
> Andrew Holway wrote: >> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more >> than a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using >> cloud services (or k8s cloud services). >> >> What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding >> or >> are you just taking care of a single java 6 jboss application that >> takes >> care of the companies widget stocks? >> >> How are your jobs changing? > > Nope. Well... actually, my manager's talking about Ubuntu or maybe even > FreeBSD. He's *extremely* upset with RH being so slow - 8 should have been > out for some time, for one, and a lot of 7, even with SCL, is far behind, > and our researchers want newer software.Maybe you should try to explain to your manager why RHEL/CentOS exist and why it's widely used in the corporate world. If he talks about Ubuntu then you could explain to him what Fedora is any why and how it differs from RHEL/CentOS. Of course, managers do not always listen to those who do the real work. Regards, Simon
On 4/24/19 5:42 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than > a couple of years.I think that's a very narrow view of what Red Hat does.? They're not just writing rpm spec files and building somone else's code. Red Hat is the largest contributor to most of the core GNU/Linux software stack.? If you use GNU/Linux, then you're using Red Hat's work.
Kubernetes isn't really a general-purpose UNIX operating system and so the question seems like it's comparing apples with oranges, at least, unless you're doing a very narrow and specific thing with certain automation and scalability requirements. I don't think the fundamental raison d'?tre for a UNIX workstation or server operating environment has changed in four decades, even if there are also specialized grids for scalable application or HPC operations. Cheers, Ben On 4/24/19 5:42 AM, Andrew Holway wrote:> I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than > a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using cloud > services (or k8s cloud services). > > What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding or > are you just taking care of a single java 6 jboss application that takes > care of the companies widget stocks? > > How are your jobs changing? > > Cheers, > > Andrew > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- Benjamin Hauger SysAdmin/CSDC-DMO Rm. 94 x8371
At Wed, 24 Apr 2019 12:02:54 -0700 CentOS mailing list <centos at centos.org> wrote:> > Kubernetes isn't really a general-purpose UNIX operating system and so > the question seems like it's comparing apples with oranges, at least, > unless you're doing a very narrow and specific thing with certain > automation and scalability requirements. > > I don't think the fundamental raison d'??tre for a UNIX workstation or > server operating environment has changed in four decades, even if there > are also specialized grids for scalable application or HPC operations.I have a "UNIX workstation" on my workbench. It is a Raspberry Pi (an older Model 2B). It is (at this time) my main circuit board CAD box. Also my main build box for: ARM (embeded) Linux (Raspberry Pi and Beagle Boards) and things like ESP32, ARM, and AVR microcontrollers (eg Arduino IDE). And I access it remotely with my laptop, running CentOS.> > Cheers, > Ben > > On 4/24/19 5:42 AM, Andrew Holway wrote: > > I just realised that I haven't touched a centos/redhat machine in more than > > a couple of years. Everything I do now is Kubernetes based or using cloud > > services (or k8s cloud services). > > > > What about it listeroons? Is your fleet of centos boxes ever expanding or > > are you just taking care of a single java 6 jboss application that takes > > care of the companies widget stocks? > > > > How are your jobs changing? > > > > Cheers, > > > > Andrew > > _______________________________________________ > > CentOS mailing list > > CentOS at centos.org > > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > > >-- Robert Heller -- 978-544-6933 Deepwoods Software -- Custom Software Services http://www.deepsoft.com/ -- Linux Administration Services heller at deepsoft.com -- Webhosting Services