CentOS - Nov 2018 - Red Hat is Planning To Deprecate KDE on RHEL By 2024

On 11/2/18 3:35 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> At Fri, 2 Nov 2018 14:02:56 -0600 CentOS mailing list <centos at
centos.org> wrote:
> 
>>
>> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/
>>
>> That's still several years in the future, of course.
>>
>> I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and I'm
sure
>> many of you fine folks do the same.
>>
>> But it's interesting nonetheless.
> 
> I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above" (meaning
all of the
> "modern" desktop managers).  I use fvwm in MWM mode and have a
Tcl/Tk coded
> "menu manager" program.  My screen looks almost like a 1980s
vintage
> VaxStation 3000 running DECWindows.  Right now on C6 and using as little of
> Gnome2 as it will let me (one panel).  File Manage set to /bin/true. No
> "start" menu nonsense, no desktop icons either, just a fvwm
iconbox for
> running programs and a 10 element Workspace switcher.  And yes, I use
actual
> xterms.
> 
Indeed, my alternatives to Mate would/may be one the these. 
Interestingly, some people when they see my screen (I'm sysadmin 
supporting a couple of Departments, about 300 people) ask "what Linux 
distribution do you have". I have to explain that that is Mate desktop 
environment... and it is actually FreeBSD, not Linux I run on my 
workstation. I don't know, it sounds like even people who are quite 
familiar with Linux to even ask that question, are not that familiar 
that that is the Desktop Environment for X11 that mostly defines "look 
and feel". World is different from what it was a decade ago ;-)

Valeri

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At Fri, 2 Nov 2018 15:58:06 -0500 CentOS mailing list <centos at
centos.org> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> On 11/2/18 3:35 PM, Robert Heller wrote:
> > At Fri, 2 Nov 2018 14:02:56 -0600 CentOS mailing list <centos at
centos.org> wrote:
> > 
> >>
> >> https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/11/02/rhel_deprecates_kde/
> >>
> >> That's still several years in the future, of course.
> >>
> >> I use Mate on all of my machines rather than Gnome or KDE and
I'm sure
> >> many of you fine folks do the same.
> >>
> >> But it's interesting nonetheless.
> > 
> > I one of the few (?) people who use "none of the above"
(meaning all of the
> > "modern" desktop managers).  I use fvwm in MWM mode and have
a Tcl/Tk coded
> > "menu manager" program.  My screen looks almost like a 1980s
vintage
> > VaxStation 3000 running DECWindows.  Right now on C6 and using as
little of
> > Gnome2 as it will let me (one panel).  File Manage set to /bin/true.
No
> > "start" menu nonsense, no desktop icons either, just a fvwm
iconbox for
> > running programs and a 10 element Workspace switcher.  And yes, I use
actual
> > xterms.
> > 
> Indeed, my alternatives to Mate would/may be one the these. 
> Interestingly, some people when they see my screen (I'm sysadmin 
> supporting a couple of Departments, about 300 people) ask "what Linux 
> distribution do you have". I have to explain that that is Mate desktop
> environment... and it is actually FreeBSD, not Linux I run on my 
> workstation. I don't know, it sounds like even people who are quite 
> familiar with Linux to even ask that question, are not that familiar 
> that that is the Desktop Environment for X11 that mostly defines "look
> and feel". World is different from what it was a decade ago ;-)
Yeah, there are very few of us that completely skipped 
MS-DOS/MS-Windows/MacOS-Clasic and *never* used a graphical file manager or 
any of the eye-candy that people now believe is "standard" or
"normal".  I
went from VMS on a VT<whatever> to a VAXStation 2000 to a VAXStation 3000,
to
DECStation 5000, to Linux, with some time spent on CP/M-68K and OS-9/68000, as 
well as SunOS, IRIX, etc.  *I* have never owned a machine running any verison 
of MS-Windows (I did have a box that dual booted MS-DOS and Linux).
> 
> Valeri
> 
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On 03/11/18 02:31, Robert Heller wrote:

<snip>
> Yeah, there are very few of us that completely skipped 
> MS-DOS/MS-Windows/MacOS-Clasic and *never* used a graphical file manager or
> any of the eye-candy that people now believe is "standard" or
"normal".  I
> went from VMS on a VT<whatever> to a VAXStation 2000 to a VAXStation
3000, to
> DECStation 5000, to Linux, with some time spent on CP/M-68K and OS-9/68000,
as
> well as SunOS, IRIX, etc.  *I* have never owned a machine running any
verison
> of MS-Windows (I did have a box that dual booted MS-DOS and Linux).
> 
VTs?  How about a VAX 11/782 with two LA120s, one per CPU. :-)

There were advantages in hardcopy consoles when dealing with system
crashes or boot problems.

Oh, I will confess to once owning W95 and W98 machines, but I do
remember finally issuing the command "# rm -r /C".

-- 
J Martin Rushton MBCS

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