Gary Stainburn
2018-Oct-12 08:48 UTC
[CentOS] Scroll bar arrows missing and behaviour change
I have done some Googling on this but everything I've found appears to be at least 2 years old and mostly refers to Gnome TBH, I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it - maybe it's only happened to me. At some point over the last few months the behaviour of the scroll bars changed and I'm finding it very annoying. Firstly, the arrows have vanished. Secondly, when clicking on the scroll bar background either above or below the drag bar instead of doing a page up or page down which is what it used to do (and what I want it to continue doing) it now moves the scroll bar to that absolute position, i.e. if I click on 75% down the scroll bar it jumps to 75% of the document. As this is happening in all apps I'm assuming it's something within KDE that had changed. I'm running an up-to-date Centos 7 x64 running the KDE desktop. Anyone got suggestions on how I can get back the the old style (windows clone) behaviour and appearance?
I agree that issue with the scroll bar jumping all over is really annoying! It is actually a feature of Gnome and GTK. It can be changed by editing a file: ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini [Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0 You may have to create this file. Firefox is a good GTK application to verify that the setting works. I use it on a CentOS 7 system which uses LXDE for the desktop. In Fedora there is an item in Settings which can control this. It is in the System Settings application: Appearance - Application Style - Gnome Application Style and is called "On left-clicking the scroll bar". As for your first question, I do not know how to get the arrows back. I have not missed them. -- Bill Gee On Friday, October 12, 2018 3:48:00 AM CDT Gary Stainburn wrote:> I have done some Googling on this but everything I've found appears to be at > least 2 years old and mostly refers to Gnome > > TBH, I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it - maybe it's only happened > to me. > > At some point over the last few months the behaviour of the scroll bars > changed and I'm finding it very annoying. > > Firstly, the arrows have vanished. > > Secondly, when clicking on the scroll bar background either above or below > the drag bar instead of doing a page up or page down which is what it used > to do (and what I want it to continue doing) it now moves the scroll bar to > that absolute position, i.e. if I click on 75% down the scroll bar it jumps > to 75% of the document. > > As this is happening in all apps I'm assuming it's something within KDE that > had changed. > > I'm running an up-to-date Centos 7 x64 running the KDE desktop. > > Anyone got suggestions on how I can get back the the old style (windows > clone) behaviour and appearance? > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Gary Stainburn
2018-Oct-12 13:10 UTC
[CentOS] Scroll bar arrows missing and behaviour change
On Friday 12 October 2018 12:19:40 Bill Gee wrote:> I agree that issue with the scroll bar jumping all over is really annoying! > It is actually a feature of Gnome and GTK. It can be changed by editing a > file: > > ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini > > [Settings] > gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0 > > You may have to create this file. Firefox is a good GTK application to > verify that the setting works. I use it on a CentOS 7 system which uses > LXDE for the desktop. > > In Fedora there is an item in Settings which can control this. It is in > the System Settings application: Appearance - Application Style - Gnome > Application Style and is called "On left-clicking the scroll bar". > > As for your first question, I do not know how to get the arrows back. I > have not missed them.Thanks for this. I created the file as described. [gary at gary ~]$ cat .config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini [Settings] gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0 [gary at gary ~]$ and rebooted. Unfortunately it's not made any difference :( Any ideas what I can try next?
Leroy Tennison
2018-Oct-12 13:40 UTC
[CentOS] Scroll bar arrows missing and behaviour change
And I thought it was a Kubuntu (Ubuntu with KDE desktop for those who aren't familiar) thing! Apparently it's a KDE thing. I haven't experienced the scrollbar aspect (or maybe I just haven't done what you do) but my arrows are missing too. I'm thinking this is a KDE Blasted Ugly Gotcha (BUG). BTW, if you haven't already discovered it, if you position your cursor where the arrows used to be the "arrow functionality" still exists (if you can get the cursor position just right). KDE now has invisible features... Leroy Tennison Network Information/Cyber Security Specialist E: leroy at datavoiceint.com 2220 Bush Dr McKinney, Texas 75070 www.datavoiceint.com TThis message has been sent on behalf of a company that is part of the Harris Operating Group of Constellation Software Inc. These companies are listed here . If you prefer not to be contacted by Harris Operating Group please notify us . This message is intended exclusively for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication may contain information that is proprietary, privileged or confidential or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are not the named addressee, you are not authorized to read, print, retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the message. ________________________________________ From: CentOS <centos-bounces at centos.org> on behalf of Gary Stainburn <gary at ringways.co.uk> Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:48 AM To: CentOS mailing list Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CentOS] Scroll bar arrows missing and behaviour change I have done some Googling on this but everything I've found appears to be at least 2 years old and mostly refers to Gnome TBH, I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it - maybe it's only happened to me. At some point over the last few months the behaviour of the scroll bars changed and I'm finding it very annoying. Firstly, the arrows have vanished. Secondly, when clicking on the scroll bar background either above or below the drag bar instead of doing a page up or page down which is what it used to do (and what I want it to continue doing) it now moves the scroll bar to that absolute position, i.e. if I click on 75% down the scroll bar it jumps to 75% of the document. As this is happening in all apps I'm assuming it's something within KDE that had changed. I'm running an up-to-date Centos 7 x64 running the KDE desktop. Anyone got suggestions on how I can get back the the old style (windows clone) behaviour and appearance? _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
Leroy Tennison wrote:> And I thought it was a Kubuntu (Ubuntu with KDE desktop for those who > aren't familiar) thing! Apparently it's a KDE thing. I haven't > experienced the scrollbar aspect (or maybe I just haven't done what you > do) but my arrows are missing too. I'm thinking this is a KDE Blasted > Ugly Gotcha (BUG). BTW, if you haven't already discovered it, if you > position your cursor where the arrows used to be the "arrow > functionality" still exists (if you can get the cursor position just > right). KDE now has invisible features... >Please don't top post. And I think it is only firefox. I run KDE on C7 - haven't looked on my C 6 at home - and it's only firefox 600.2esr, and there are no arrows, and no, I can't put my cursur anywhere, it got to that part of the page. My LibreOffice, my urxvt windows, and t-bird all have arrows. And it's annoying - I miss something, and suddenly I'm at the bottom of the page, instead of one window down. mark
Valeri Galtsev
2018-Oct-12 14:48 UTC
[CentOS] Scroll bar arrows missing and behaviour change
On 10/12/18 8:40 AM, Leroy Tennison wrote:> And I thought it was a Kubuntu (Ubuntu with KDE desktop for those who aren't familiar) thing! Apparently it's a KDE thing. I haven't experienced the scrollbar aspect (or maybe I just haven't done what you do) but my arrows are missing too. I'm thinking this is a KDE Blasted Ugly Gotcha (BUG). BTW, if you haven't already discovered it, if you position your cursor where the arrows used to be the "arrow functionality" still exists (if you can get the cursor position just right). KDE now has invisible features...In the past as programmers we were taught more wisdom than today's "coders" have been: One of the rules of thumb was: Don't make any changes in [debugged] program unless they are absolutely necessary. On a similar note: who remembers netscape navigator (web browser)? It was pleasantly not changing its appearance and UI (User Interface) for ages. These days Firefox and thunderbird are being rushed with new releases. "Releases" full of security holes (take a look at CentOS update history: firefox security updates are the most often ones). As if they are aiming to beat everybody in version number (currently major version in 50th-60th). But they can not beat Microsoft who has a release: Windows 2000. </rant> [no beginning of rant tag, as I'm not certain where to put it] Valeri> > > Leroy Tennison > Network Information/Cyber Security Specialist > E: leroy at datavoiceint.com > 2220 Bush Dr > McKinney, Texas > 75070 > www.datavoiceint.com > TThis message has been sent on behalf > of a company that is part of the Harris Operating Group of > Constellation Software Inc. These companies are listed > here > . > If you prefer not to be contacted by Harris > Operating Group > please notify us > . > This message is intended exclusively for the > individual or entity to which it is addressed. This communication > may contain information that is proprietary, privileged or > confidential or otherwise legally exempt from disclosure. If you are > not the named addressee, you are not authorized to read, print, > retain, copy or disseminate this message or any part of it. If you > have received this message in error, please notify the sender > immediately by e-mail and delete all copies of the > message. > > ________________________________________ > From: CentOS <centos-bounces at centos.org> on behalf of Gary Stainburn <gary at ringways.co.uk> > Sent: Friday, October 12, 2018 3:48 AM > To: CentOS mailing list > Subject: [EXTERNAL] [CentOS] Scroll bar arrows missing and behaviour change > > I have done some Googling on this but everything I've found appears to be at > least 2 years old and mostly refers to Gnome > > TBH, I'm surprised nobody else has mentioned it - maybe it's only happened to > me. > > At some point over the last few months the behaviour of the scroll bars > changed and I'm finding it very annoying. > > Firstly, the arrows have vanished. > > Secondly, when clicking on the scroll bar background either above or below the > drag bar instead of doing a page up or page down which is what it used to do > (and what I want it to continue doing) it now moves the scroll bar to that > absolute position, i.e. if I click on 75% down the scroll bar it jumps to 75% > of the document. > > As this is happening in all apps I'm assuming it's something within KDE that > had changed. > > I'm running an up-to-date Centos 7 x64 running the KDE desktop. > > Anyone got suggestions on how I can get back the the old style (windows clone) > behaviour and appearance? > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Elliott Balsley
2018-Oct-12 18:24 UTC
[CentOS] Scroll bar arrows missing and behaviour change
> > I agree that issue with the scroll bar jumping all over is really > annoying! > It is actually a feature of Gnome and GTK. It can be changed by editing a > file: > > ~/.config/gtk-3.0/settings.ini > > [Settings] > gtk-primary-button-warps-slider=0 > >I also find this behavior annoying. I tried adding this settings file (it didn't exist) and logging out and back in, but Firefox still jumps do the absolute location on the scrollbar. I'm on CentOS 7.3.