CentOS - Aug 2018 - OT: Linux recommendations for old Pentium PC

On Friday 31 August 2018 15:44:53 Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>
> I would use FreeBSD (and I do use FreeBSD for bacula, now bareos backup
> server and storage hosts), it has really small "footprint", and
it is
> quite widespread.
>
> Incidentally, I was using bacula for very long time, but recently I
> switched to bacula's fork: bareos. You may want to consider the
> differences before you finalized everything in stone.
>
> Valeri
Hi Valeri,

Thanks for this. I haven't looked at FreeBSD since the 1990's or there
abouts,
but I'll give it a look.  

I'm also looking at lubuntu, but was hoping that there was a lcentos. We
tend
to like what we're used to.

I'd be interested in your views on the differences between bacula and
Bareos.
I do have one Bareos storeage device but that's just in Bacula compat mode.

Gary

I?m fresh out of FreeBSD world.  Depending on the port, it can be easy and
predictable, or an absolute confusion-fest.

> On Aug 31, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Gary Stainburn <gary at ringways.co.uk>
wrote:
> 
> Thanks for this. I haven't looked at FreeBSD since the 1990's or
there abouts,
> but I'll give it a look.  


Cheers, Bee

On 8/31/18 9:52 AM, Gary Stainburn wrote:
> On Friday 31 August 2018 15:44:53 Valeri Galtsev wrote:
>>
>> I would use FreeBSD (and I do use FreeBSD for bacula, now bareos backup
>> server and storage hosts), it has really small "footprint",
and it is
>> quite widespread.
>>
>> Incidentally, I was using bacula for very long time, but recently I
>> switched to bacula's fork: bareos. You may want to consider the
>> differences before you finalized everything in stone.
>>
>> Valeri
> 
> Hi Valeri,
> 
> Thanks for this. I haven't looked at FreeBSD since the 1990's or
there abouts,
> but I'll give it a look.
> 
> I'm also looking at lubuntu, but was hoping that there was a lcentos.
We tend
> to like what we're used to.
It is counter productive, and this list is wrong place to tell some 
alternative system is better than one or another Linux, hence this is 
the rant, ignore it, everyone who can:

<rant>
Linux kernel is IMHO overburdened by quite a lot of stuff that doesn't 
belong there. Hence higher chance of bugs (and almost all bugs in kernel 
have security implications). Adding to that not too rare glibc security 
patches, all in all in my observation on average you have to reboot 
Linux box once every 45 days. That became a statistics after switch from 
2.4 to 2.6 kernel as I recollect, and one of my friends started to use 
word "Lindoze" when he was looking where to migrate his servers to
those
days...
</rant>

All in all for your hardware if I were to pick the system that is widely 
used and has small footprint and small demands to hardware specs, I 
would use FreeBSD.

I hope, this helps.

Valeri
> 
> I'd be interested in your views on the differences between bacula and
Bareos.
> I do have one Bareos storeage device but that's just in Bacula compat
mode.
> 
> Gary
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On 8/31/18 10:12 AM, Bee.Lists wrote:
> I?m fresh out of FreeBSD world.  Depending on the port, it can be easy and
predictable, or an absolute confusion-fest.
> 
FreeBSD ports should not be confused with FreeBSD system. Each of ports 
is maintained by different maintainer(s), some of them get obsolete, 
sometimes quickly, and not every software that is ported deserves in 
sane sysadmin's opinion to be offered to the users.

And the same can be said about RPM collections (which are many, and one 
huge one would be Fedora's one) or deb packages collection of Debian 
(and its clones).

All in all, if one gets confused sometimes, one can get confused using 
any open source system.

On the other hand, before starting to offer some software to users, 
every sysadmin analyzes it carefully and tries to predict if it will 
stay alive for long time. As it is huge pain to migrate users to some 
alternative once the software of your choice becomes dead... And that is 
how sysadmins earn their salaries IMHO.

Just my $0.02.

Valeri
> 
>> On Aug 31, 2018, at 10:52 AM, Gary Stainburn <gary at
ringways.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks for this. I haven't looked at FreeBSD since the 1990's
or there abouts,
>> but I'll give it a look.
> 
> 
> 
> Cheers, Bee
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Valeri Galtsev
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Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics
Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics
University of Chicago
Phone: 773-702-4247
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