Le 08/03/2018 ? 11:30, hw a ?crit :> The government says you must use squidguard to filter something?The law in France (Code P?nal, article 227-24) states that a public network is not allowed to broadcast messages containing violence, pornography or any content contrary to basic human dignity, which is theoretically punishable with three years of prison or a 75.000 ? fee. So any network that offers public access is required by law to operate such filtering. This is the case for schools, town halls, public libraries, etc. How this filtering is achieved is left to the admin for consideration. Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'?glise - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info at microlinux.fr T?l. : 04 66 63 10 32
On 03/08/18 06:09, Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> Le 08/03/2018 ? 11:30, hw a ?crit : >> The government says you must use squidguard to filter something? > > The law in France (Code P?nal, article 227-24) states that a public > network is not allowed to broadcast messages containing violence, > pornography or any content contrary to basic human dignity, which is > theoretically punishable with three years of prison or a 75.000 ? fee.Yes, I was always wondering which is more advantageous for citizens, to show suicidal bombers/shooters attacks that happen(ed) in France on public news channels, of not show them as they definitely were acts of violence. The second will keep French people delusional about safety and sources of danger in France. But may be advantageous for the government which can keep pursuing its policies without results of policies (such violent attacks) questioned by public. After having said that I have a feeling that the discussion slipped into politics on this technical list... maybe we should bring things back to pure technical questions? Valeri> > So any network that offers public access is required by law to operate > such filtering. This is the case for schools, town halls, public > libraries, etc. > > How this filtering is achieved is left to the admin for consideration. > > Cheers, > > Niki >-- ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Nicolas Kovacs wrote:> Le 08/03/2018 ? 11:30, hw a ?crit : >> The government says you must use squidguard to filter something? > > The law in France (Code P?nal, article 227-24) states that a public > network is not allowed to broadcast messages containing violence, > pornography or any content contrary to basic human dignity, which is > theoretically punishable with three years of prison or a 75.000 ? fee. > > So any network that offers public access is required by law to operate > such filtering. This is the case for schools, town halls, public > libraries, etc. > > How this filtering is achieved is left to the admin for consideration.But you aren?t broadcasting messages, or are you? If they mean something like "make data accessible", the only way to be compliant with such a law is by not providing public access. How do you distinguish between things that are contrary to basic human dignity and things that aren?t, and how do you keep track of all existing sources of data so that you can decide whether you need to block them or not? Or who gets to decide? For example, I could argue that tracking peoples online activities, storing their data any longer than is unavoidable for the purpose they were gathered for, gathering data about people without their explicit consent and displaying any advertisements in public is against basic human dignity. All these take away my freedom, and I want to be protected against them and require the means to stay in control of my data and thus of my life. Freedom and being able to have control of ones own life certainly falls under basic human dignity. Someone else could argue against this. You would need to block all access to this mailing list because a judge might find it against basic human dignity that someone is saying something else. You might also need to block all access to information about how immigrants are being treated in Europe because the way at least some of them could be against basic human dignity. And what right does the French government have to demand such censorship? This kind of censorship is against human dignity.
Le 08/03/2018 ? 17:15, hw a ?crit :> But you aren?t broadcasting messages, or are you? > > If they mean something like "make data accessible", the only way to > be compliant with such a law is by not providing public access. How > do you distinguish between things that are contrary to basic human > dignity and things that aren?t, and how do you keep track of all > existing sources of data so that you can decide whether you need to > block them or not? Or who gets to decide? > > For example, I could argue that tracking peoples online activities, > storing their data any longer than is unavoidable for the purpose > they were gathered for, gathering data about people without their > explicit consent and displaying any advertisements in public is > against basic human dignity. All these take away my freedom, and I > want to be protected against them and require the means to stay in > control of my data and thus of my life. Freedom and being able to > have control of ones own life certainly falls under basic human > dignity. > > Someone else could argue against this. You would need to block all > access to this mailing list because a judge might find it against > basic human dignity that someone is saying something else. > > You might also need to block all access to information about how > immigrants are being treated in Europe because the way at least some > of them could be against basic human dignity. > > And what right does the French government have to demand such > censorship? This kind of censorship is against human dignity.Guys. This is the CentOS mailing list, a place to discuss technical questions... such as web content filtering. As for the content in question, the law was mainly made for kids, to prevent them from watching porn, decapitation videos or various tutorials about growing weed or building bombs. I doubt this is the right place to air your various beefs with humanity in general and the french government in particular. So please let's all get back on topic. As a follow-up, I just published an article on how to combine an existing installation of Squid with SquidAnalyzer: * https://blog.microlinux.fr/squidanalyzer-centos/ Cheers, Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'?glise - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info at microlinux.fr T?l. : 04 66 63 10 32
Nicolas Kovacs
2018-Mar-09 13:09 UTC
[CentOS] FW: Squid and HTTPS interception on CentOS 7 ?
Le 09/03/2018 ? 12:01, Patton, Eamonn J a ?crit :> Just to let you know that our Office365 safelinks analyser is > categorising the link given below (regarding Squid with SquidAnalyzer > "blog.microlinux.fr") as "malicious". That usually means they have > detected (or think they have detected) some malware on the site.Thanks for reporting this. Though I bluntly admit I just ignore everything coming from Microsoft. Hotmail has been tagging my company's mailserver as a spammer for ages, so I'm tagging everything coming from Microsoft as crapware. Nothing good has ever been produced by this company. The last time I actually used MS Windows for work was around 2001, before Windows XP came out. This is the year I moved to Linux (Slackware 7.1 at the time), and I've been 100 % GNU/Linux ever since. :o) Niki -- Microlinux - Solutions informatiques durables 7, place de l'?glise - 30730 Montpezat Site : https://www.microlinux.fr Blog : https://blog.microlinux.fr Mail : info at microlinux.fr T?l. : 04 66 63 10 32
Andrew Holway
2018-Mar-09 15:17 UTC
[CentOS] FW: Squid and HTTPS interception on CentOS 7 ?
> > Thanks for reporting this. Though I bluntly admit I just ignore > everything coming from Microsoft. Hotmail has been tagging my company's > mailserver as a spammer for ages, so I'm tagging everything coming from > Microsoft as crapware. Nothing good has ever been produced by this > company. The last time I actually used MS Windows for work was around > 2001, before Windows XP came out. This is the year I moved to Linux > (Slackware 7.1 at the time), and I've been 100 % GNU/Linux ever since. >This is a bit shortsighted. Microsoft has been producing excellent video games for years. Seriously, I am inclined to cut them some slack since they started promoting OSS. They are planning of opensource everything they do which I think deserves a big thumbs up. Oracle however..... </thread hijack>