Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called > decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right?The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech Report called it "the best netbook we've ever tested". So it was quite good (for a netbook) at the time. Everything depends on the OP's intended use, of course. I just wanted to disagree that you need better hardware for Linux than for Windows, or at least for CentOS 6 than Windows 7. -- Yves Bellefeuille <yan at storm.ca>
And I agree too, running Kubuntu 14.04 LTS on an HP Pavilion dv7 is acceptable, running Windows 7 was dog slow - hard drive crashed and we lost the Windoze license, sad story, all I could do was install Linux and go on instead of dual-booting when I needed Windoze - such a shame :-) :-) :-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yves Bellefeuille" <yan at storm.ca> To: "centos" <centos at centos.org> Sent: Thursday, November 2, 2017 2:41:03 PM Subject: Re: [CentOS] modestly priced laptop for C7 Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote:> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called > decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right?The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech Report called it "the best netbook we've ever tested". So it was quite good (for a netbook) at the time. Everything depends on the OP's intended use, of course. I just wanted to disagree that you need better hardware for Linux than for Windows, or at least for CentOS 6 than Windows 7. -- Yves Bellefeuille <yan at storm.ca> _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On Thu, November 2, 2017 2:41 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote:> Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: > >> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called >> decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right? > > The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech Report called it > "the best netbook we've ever tested". So it was quite good (for a > netbook) at the time. > > Everything depends on the OP's intended use, of course. I just wanted > to disagree that you need better hardware for Linux than for Windows, > or at least for CentOS 6 than Windows 7.No I never intended to say you need better hardware for Linux than for Windows. It is opposite in my opinion, but both these systems pace at similar curve with their demands. To the contrary to Windows and Linux, FreeBSD has much slower increase in demands, namely, when Linux and Windows go up about hardware specs about exponentially, FreeBSD goes much closer to linear. And therefore, I would predict that the laptop with the specs of OP will nicely run FreeBSD in 7 years, whereas it will feel slow, obsolete etc in about 3 (maybe 4) years if one runs latest Linux or MS Windows on it then. I hope, this time I finally managed to make myself clear ;-) Valeri [The guy who runs hardware for 7-9 years, sometimes longer]> > -- > Yves Bellefeuille > <yan at storm.ca> > > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > https://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Valeri Galtsev Sr System Administrator Department of Astronomy and Astrophysics Kavli Institute for Cosmological Physics University of Chicago Phone: 773-702-4247 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Valeri Galtsev wrote:> > On Thu, November 2, 2017 2:41 pm, Yves Bellefeuille wrote: >> Valeri Galtsev <galtsev at kicp.uchicago.edu> wrote: >> >>> And you are talking about 8 years old system on what would be called >>> decent hardware about the same 8 years back, right? >> >> The hardware is 6 years old and, at the time, Tech Report called it >> "the best netbook we've ever tested". So it was quite good (for a >> netbook) at the time. >> >> Everything depends on the OP's intended use, of course. I just wanted >> to disagree that you need better hardware for Linux than for Windows, >> or at least for CentOS 6 than Windows 7. > > No I never intended to say you need better hardware for Linux than for > Windows. It is opposite in my opinion, but both these systems pace at > similar curve with their demands. To the contrary to Windows and Linux, > FreeBSD has much slower increase in demands, namely, when Linux and > Windows go up about hardware specs about exponentially, FreeBSD goes much > closer to linear. And therefore, I would predict that the laptop with the > specs of OP will nicely run FreeBSD in 7 years, whereas it will feel slow, > obsolete etc in about 3 (maybe 4) years if one runs latest Linux or MS > Windows on it then. > > I hope, this time I finally managed to make myself clear ;-) > > Valeri > [The guy who runs hardware for 7-9 years, sometimes longer]Wimp. We just surplssed, earlier this year, our old supercomputer, an SGI Altrix 3000.... circa 2003..... (To be fair, it was only fired up a few times a year, so that one software maintainer could build for collaborators around the wolrd with old hardware.) mark mark