CentOS - Nov 2016 - CentOS 6.3 packages updates options without upgrading.

The specs may have certain dependency on subset of 6.3 packages, but not
for all other packages/binaries, as I mentioned earlier.  So, to keep
things rather intact, we would simply meet requirements by only updating
"selected packages only".  And, for now, that should be considered
intermittent solution until we can safely land to a proper job as you
mentioned.  So, would there be any issue by upgrading "selected only
packages" temporarily?  For example, only updating nss-util or openssl to
6.8 version.  Thanks all, appreciated very much.

On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:43 PM, Frank Cox <theatre at
melvilletheatre.com>
wrote:
> On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 23:33:56 -0600
> Dipal Bhatt wrote:
>
> > But, yes, there's
> > no way to update the 6.3 to 6.8 as I repeatedly mentioned which is the
> only
> > requirement/constraint.
>
> It occurs to me to ask what you consider to be version 6.3.  If you update
> any of the rpms to the 6.8 version you are no longer running version 6.3.
> If the spec requires 6.3 and nothing else, then you will no longer be
> compatible with the spec as soon as you install the first 6.8 rpm.
>
> On the other hand, if you are allowed to install 6.8 rpms, then what's
> keeping you back from doing a proper job instead of a halfway and
> half-assed one?
>
> Upgrading "selected packages only" will leave you with something
that's
> neither fish or fowl, and it won't meet your requirements as stated
either.
>
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Yes you would break all kinds of things.  In a nutshell folks are saying
you are free to try but when it blows up...you better have a total backup
to restore the entire box.  Your first priority should be getting whatever
is holding you back from proper system updates and security out of the way.

On Nov 8, 2016 00:59, "Dipal Bhatt" <dipal.bhatt at gmail.com>
wrote:
> The specs may have certain dependency on subset of 6.3 packages, but not
> for all other packages/binaries, as I mentioned earlier.  So, to keep
> things rather intact, we would simply meet requirements by only updating
> "selected packages only".  And, for now, that should be
considered
> intermittent solution until we can safely land to a proper job as you
> mentioned.  So, would there be any issue by upgrading "selected only
> packages" temporarily?  For example, only updating nss-util or openssl
to
> 6.8 version.  Thanks all, appreciated very much.
>
> On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:43 PM, Frank Cox <theatre at
melvilletheatre.com>
> wrote:
>
> > On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 23:33:56 -0600
> > Dipal Bhatt wrote:
> >
> > > But, yes, there's
> > > no way to update the 6.3 to 6.8 as I repeatedly mentioned which
is the
> > only
> > > requirement/constraint.
> >
> > It occurs to me to ask what you consider to be version 6.3.  If you
> update
> > any of the rpms to the 6.8 version you are no longer running version
6.3.
> > If the spec requires 6.3 and nothing else, then you will no longer be
> > compatible with the spec as soon as you install the first 6.8 rpm.
> >
> > On the other hand, if you are allowed to install 6.8 rpms, then
what's
> > keeping you back from doing a proper job instead of a halfway and
> > half-assed one?
> >
> > Upgrading "selected packages only" will leave you with
something that's
> > neither fish or fowl, and it won't meet your requirements as
stated
> either.
> >
> > --
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Thanks very much, understood.  so, it seems, upgrading selected packages is
probably going to be fine except where the compatibility matters where it
would break all kinds of things.  Something of such nature of request would
need to be internally tested by simply updating the selected packages, test
the applications previously running on 6.3 w/ these few selected 6.8
packages updates.  It seems, the answer is to try and see whether works or
breaks.  of course, currently, no way to update system properly to latest,
hence further inquiries.  Really appreciated some helpful pointers. Thanks
kindly.

On Tue, Nov 8, 2016 at 12:02 AM, William Warren <hescominsoon at
gmail.com>
wrote:
> Yes you would break all kinds of things.  In a nutshell folks are saying
> you are free to try but when it blows up...you better have a total backup
> to restore the entire box.  Your first priority should be getting whatever
> is holding you back from proper system updates and security out of the way.
>
> On Nov 8, 2016 00:59, "Dipal Bhatt" <dipal.bhatt at
gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > The specs may have certain dependency on subset of 6.3 packages, but
not
> > for all other packages/binaries, as I mentioned earlier.  So, to keep
> > things rather intact, we would simply meet requirements by only
updating
> > "selected packages only".  And, for now, that should be
considered
> > intermittent solution until we can safely land to a proper job as you
> > mentioned.  So, would there be any issue by upgrading "selected
only
> > packages" temporarily?  For example, only updating nss-util or
openssl to
> > 6.8 version.  Thanks all, appreciated very much.
> >
> > On Mon, Nov 7, 2016 at 11:43 PM, Frank Cox <theatre at
melvilletheatre.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > On Mon, 7 Nov 2016 23:33:56 -0600
> > > Dipal Bhatt wrote:
> > >
> > > > But, yes, there's
> > > > no way to update the 6.3 to 6.8 as I repeatedly mentioned
which is
> the
> > > only
> > > > requirement/constraint.
> > >
> > > It occurs to me to ask what you consider to be version 6.3.  If
you
> > update
> > > any of the rpms to the 6.8 version you are no longer running
version
> 6.3.
> > > If the spec requires 6.3 and nothing else, then you will no
longer be
> > > compatible with the spec as soon as you install the first 6.8
rpm.
> > >
> > > On the other hand, if you are allowed to install 6.8 rpms, then
what's
> > > keeping you back from doing a proper job instead of a halfway and
> > > half-assed one?
> > >
> > > Upgrading "selected packages only" will leave you with
something that's
> > > neither fish or fowl, and it won't meet your requirements as
stated
> > either.
> > >
> > > --
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www.melvilletheatre.com
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