On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:15:05 -0800 Akemi Yagi <amyagi at gmail.com> wrote:> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com> > wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 03:39:47PM -0600, Frank Cox wrote: > >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 16:13:17 -0500 > >> Scott Robbins wrote: > >> > You may have noticed how if Fedora, by some odd scheme, deems > >> > your password unworthy, you have to click Done two times. > >> > >> Centos 7 does that as well. > > Heh, I guess I've used good passwords in my installs then. > > I have to tap it twice all the time. But don't tell this to > anyone! ;-)OP's point is that probably in RHEL8 you won't be able to do even that anymore. While I personally think this is a good idea, this has some potential to maybe cause trouble or inconvenience down the line, with regards to automated installs, broken kickstart scripts, various company policies regarding the root password, etc. I guess there are sensitive scenarios out there. So if any CentOS user think they can be hurt by this change, they should do something about it now, rather than bitch about compatibility breakage when RHEL8 comes out in a couple of years. :-) HTH, :-) Marko
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote:> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:15:05 -0800 > Akemi Yagi <amyagi at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Centos 7 does that as well. > > > Heh, I guess I've used good passwords in my installs then. > > > > I have to tap it twice all the time. But don't tell this to > > anyone! ;-) > > OP's point is that probably in RHEL8 you won't be able to do even > that anymore.Exactly. There is some complaining going on on the Fedora testing list, not sure where else one can protest. -- Scott Robbins PGP keyID EB3467D6 ( 1B48 077D 66F6 9DB0 FDC2 A409 FA54 EB34 67D6 ) gpg --keyserver pgp.mit.edu --recv-keys EB3467D6
On 01/30/2015 05:27 PM, Marko Vojinovic wrote: While I personally think this is a good idea, this has> some potential to maybe cause trouble or inconvenience down the line, > with regards to automated installs, broken kickstart scripts,... Kickstart installs with an already encrypted password in the kickstart file would not be affected. The only way the installer could know how weak the password was would be to spend the time to guess it. -- Bob Nichols "NOSPAM" is really part of my email address. Do NOT delete it.
On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 4:09 PM, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com> wrote:> > There is some complaining going on on the Fedora testing list, > not sure where else one can protest. >The thread starts here: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/test/2015-January/124827.html
On 01/30/2015 06:09 PM, Scott Robbins wrote:> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 11:27:55PM +0000, Marko Vojinovic wrote: >> On Fri, 30 Jan 2015 14:15:05 -0800 >> Akemi Yagi <amyagi at gmail.com> wrote: >>> On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Scott Robbins <scottro at nyc.rr.com> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Centos 7 does that as well. >>>> Heh, I guess I've used good passwords in my installs then. >>> >>> I have to tap it twice all the time. But don't tell this to >>> anyone! ;-) >> >> OP's point is that probably in RHEL8 you won't be able to do even >> that anymore. > > Exactly. There is some complaining going on on the Fedora testing list, > not sure where else one can protest. >Well, protesting here would be meaningless .. as is protesting systemd here. CentOS-8 will have whatever is in the RHEL-8 source code, exactly as it is in that source code minus branding. Just like CentOS-2.1, 3, 4, 5, and 6. Our goal is to rebuild the source code exactly, bugs and all. We want all the behaviors and the experience to be identical in every way. If you want to effect change before it gets in RHEL, then Fedora is the place. If you want to get it changed in CentOS, then buy RHEL and providing feedback there is the way. We are, by design, exactly as Red Hat pushes the RHEL source code. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 198 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20150131/5f62e899/attachment-0001.sig>