Somers-Harris, David | David | OPS
2014-Dec-24 05:48 UTC
[CentOS] When will CentOS Publish Errata?
Hello, Currently The CentOS project publishes errata on its CentOS Announce mailing list. In order to import this into a package management system (like Katello on The Foreman), one needs to parse the mailing list and convert it into XML before importing it. This is done to some extent on http://cefs.steve-meier.de/ but some more legwork needs to be done before The Foreman can understand the errata like it does natively for RHN. I have heard rumour that The CentOS project is planning to publish Errata in the same way that Red Hat does, but I haven't been able to find anything on the Internet about this. Does anybody know if The CentOS Project has indeed declared such intention, and when they plan to do this? Side Note: Interestingly enough, I've noticed that EPEL has started to add errata data to their repositories. Thanks, David
David, The CentOS team has taken the stance that they do not understand what is required for this, so, they will not be including it under any circumstances. I am unable to locate the thread in the archive: http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2014-September/thread.html However, luckily, Gmane archives everything just fine. http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.centos.devel/12370/focus=12375 In the third reply from KB, he states: "ok, so the updateinfo content - we can carry that, where would the data come from ?" So it may be possible he doesn't understand where the Errata is located currently (in the mailing list), so I think someone just needs to step up and do the work for CentOS in incorporating the Errata, but, Johnny handles that and the work he does isn't documented to the public. So, we're a little in the dark on where/how he sets up the announce list anyways. But, that's how it's always been with the CentOS project, the gears are kept private the product is made public. Realistically, it would probably be easier to fork the repositories under a different name, create your own mirrorlist and point back at the mirrors for your RPM sources. Steven Crothers steven.crothers at gmail.com On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Somers-Harris, David | David | OPS <david.somers-harris at mail.rakuten.com> wrote:> Hello, > > Currently The CentOS project publishes errata on its CentOS Announce mailing list. In order to import this into a package management system (like Katello on The Foreman), one needs to parse the mailing list and convert it into XML before importing it. This is done to some extent on http://cefs.steve-meier.de/ but some more legwork needs to be done before The Foreman can understand the errata like it does natively for RHN. > > I have heard rumour that The CentOS project is planning to publish Errata in the same way that Red Hat does, but I haven't been able to find anything on the Internet about this. Does anybody know if The CentOS Project has indeed declared such intention, and when they plan to do this? > > Side Note: Interestingly enough, I've noticed that EPEL has started to add errata data to their repositories. > > Thanks, > David > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos
On 03/01/15 07:12, Steven Crothers wrote:> David, > > The CentOS team has taken the stance that they do not understand what > is required for this, so, they will not be including it under any > circumstances.umm, no.> > I am unable to locate the thread in the archive: > http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos-devel/2014-September/thread.html > > However, luckily, Gmane archives everything just fine. > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.centos.devel/12370/focus=12375 > > In the third reply from KB, he states: > "ok, so the updateinfo content - we can carry that, where would the > data come from ?" > > So it may be possible he doesn't understand where the Errata is > located currently (in the mailing list),again, incorrect - spend a bit of time and actually try to workout what the context and data needs to be and what is being requesed.> so I think someone just needs > to step up and do the work for CentOS in incorporating the Errata, > but, Johnny handles that and the work he does isn't documented to the > public.third part, again incorrect.> So, we're a little in the dark on where/how he sets up the > announce list anyways. But, that's how it's always been with the > CentOS project, the gears are kept private the product is made public. > > Realistically, it would probably be easier to fork the repositories > under a different name, create your own mirrorlist and point back at > the mirrors for your RPM sources.you are still going to need the updateinfo data...> Steven Crothers > steven.crothers at gmail.com > > > On Wed, Dec 24, 2014 at 12:48 AM, Somers-Harris, David | David | OPS > <david.somers-harris at mail.rakuten.com> wrote: >> Hello, >> >> Currently The CentOS project publishes errata on its CentOS Announce mailing list. In order to import this into a package management system (like Katello on The Foreman), one needs to parse the mailing list and convert it into XML before importing it. This is done to some extent on http://cefs.steve-meier.de/ but some more legwork needs to be done before The Foreman can understand the errata like it does natively for RHN. >> >> I have heard rumour that The CentOS project is planning to publish Errata in the same way that Red Hat does, but I haven't been able to find anything on the Internet about this. Does anybody know if The CentOS Project has indeed declared such intention, and when they plan to do this? >> >> Side Note: Interestingly enough, I've noticed that EPEL has started to add errata data to their repositories. >> >> Thanks, >> David >> _______________________________________________ >> CentOS mailing list >> CentOS at centos.org >> http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos > _______________________________________________ > CentOS mailing list > CentOS at centos.org > http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos >-- Karanbir Singh +44-207-0999389 | http://www.karan.org/ | twitter.com/kbsingh GnuPG Key : http://www.karan.org/publickey.asc
Somers-Harris, David | David | OPS
2015-Jan-05 00:00 UTC
[CentOS] When will CentOS Publish Errata?
> However, luckily, Gmane archives everything just fine. > http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.centos.devel/12370/focus=12375Thanks Steven for bringing this thread to my attention. So it looks like there was already a discussion about this in September, and it ended with two action items. 1. Write code to automatically put the following into updateinfo.xml a. Link to RH web site b. List of packages that are updated c. CESA, CEBA or CEEA number which flags the type of fix as bug, security or enhancement. 2. Figure out how and where to store previous errata content. The final comment on the thread "Erata in the Repo" was Kevin Strange saying he would look into #1, and also him asking everybody what the best way to do #2 is. Does anybody know if Kevin has had any luck with #1? Would it be better if I revived that thread or is it fine to discuss here?