Rudi Ahlers
2009-Mar-25 08:01 UTC
[CentOS] looking for some advice to monitor network usage in office
Hi all, I've been asked by a college to setup a monitor to monitor a Windows network, but on internet usage. They want to have detailed usage, i.e. on a per IP / PC basis, and if possible to get stats for every protocol, and see over a period of time what goes on. My first though wat ntop, which does all of this, but it doesn't save the data in a DB, so if the server reboots the stats are reset to 0. I also can't get Cacti to give me stats per IP & per protocol (unless someone knows how todo this). I don't yet know the full network layout, but I have a feeling they're using ADSL, and have a Windows Small Business server with ISA, and possible Exchange as well. So, I'm either going to put a CentOS box between the Windows box & ADSL router, or maybe even setup a CentOS Vmware Virtual PC, force all the network to route via the VPS. Does anyone have some suggestions / experience in setting up something like this? P.S. Please don't look at the fact that there's Windows on the network. I use Linux for business purposes, not as a hobby, and we also use Mac & Windows where the situation calls for it. -- Kind Regards Rudi Ahlers
Frank Cox
2009-Mar-25 08:24 UTC
[CentOS] looking for some advice to monitor network usage in office
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 10:01:50 +0200 Rudi Ahlers wrote:> I've been asked by a college to setup a monitor to monitor a Windows > network, but on internet usage. They want to have detailed usage, i.e. > on a per IP / PC basis, and if possible to get stats for every > protocol, and see over a period of time what goes on.What about privoxy and sawmill? -- MELVILLE THEATRE ~ Melville Sask ~ http://www.melvilletheatre.com
Spook ZA
2009-Mar-25 08:52 UTC
[CentOS] looking for some advice to monitor network usage in office
Hi Rudy 2009/3/25 Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers at gmail.com>:> Hi all, > > I've been asked by a college to setup a monitor to monitor a Windows > network, but on internet usage. They want to have detailed usage, i.e. > on a per IP / PC basis, and if possible to get stats for every > protocol, and see over a period of time what goes on. > > My first though wat ntop, which does all of this, but it doesn't save > the data in a DB, so if the server reboots the stats are reset to 0. I > also can't get Cacti to give me stats per IP & per protocol (unless > someone knows how todo this). > > I don't yet know the full network layout, but I have a feeling they're > using ADSL, and have a Windows Small Business server with ISA, and > possible Exchange as well. So, I'm either going to put a CentOS box > between the Windows box & ADSL router, or maybe even setup a CentOS > Vmware Virtual PC, force all the network to route via the VPS. > > Does anyone have some suggestions / experience in setting up something > like this? > > P.S. Please don't look at the fact that there's Windows on the > network. I use Linux for business purposes, not as a hobby, and we > also use Mac & Windows where the situation calls for it. > > -- > > Kind Regards > Rudi AhlersIf your firewall / border gateway is running linux, have a look at: http://www.networkuptime.com/tools/netflow/ You need an exporter that will export linux netflow records and software that will collect and present the resultant data. Regards, Andrew.
Ross Walker
2009-Mar-25 13:27 UTC
[CentOS] looking for some advice to monitor network usage in office
On Mar 25, 2009, at 4:01 AM, Rudi Ahlers <rudiahlers at gmail.com> wrote:> Hi all, > > I've been asked by a college to setup a monitor to monitor a Windows > network, but on internet usage. They want to have detailed usage, i.e. > on a per IP / PC basis, and if possible to get stats for every > protocol, and see over a period of time what goes on. > > My first though wat ntop, which does all of this, but it doesn't save > the data in a DB, so if the server reboots the stats are reset to 0. I > also can't get Cacti to give me stats per IP & per protocol (unless > someone knows how todo this). > > I don't yet know the full network layout, but I have a feeling they're > using ADSL, and have a Windows Small Business server with ISA, and > possible Exchange as well. So, I'm either going to put a CentOS box > between the Windows box & ADSL router, or maybe even setup a CentOS > Vmware Virtual PC, force all the network to route via the VPS. > > Does anyone have some suggestions / experience in setting up something > like this? > > P.S. Please don't look at the fact that there's Windows on the > network. I use Linux for business purposes, not as a hobby, and we > also use Mac & Windows where the situation calls for IBest way to do what your asking is to setup a proxy/firewall that all hosts have to pass through. That way the proxy/firewall can log all the activity and then you use a reporting program to report on the log data. Squid can log all kinds of data, so can iptables. Couple that with NTLM/basic authentication on the squid host and you can put names with ip addresses. The authentication can be transparent so if the user is logged on the network they auto-authenticate with the proxy. -Ross
Les Mikesell
2009-Mar-25 15:01 UTC
[CentOS] looking for some advice to monitor network usage in office
Rudi Ahlers wrote:> Hi all, > > I've been asked by a college to setup a monitor to monitor a Windows > network, but on internet usage. They want to have detailed usage, i.e. > on a per IP / PC basis, and if possible to get stats for every > protocol, and see over a period of time what goes on. > > My first though wat ntop, which does all of this, but it doesn't save > the data in a DB, so if the server reboots the stats are reset to 0.Are you sure you went through all the ntop options? I thought it had ways to store and export data. And it can both source and parse netflow data.> I > also can't get Cacti to give me stats per IP & per protocol (unless > someone knows how todo this).SNMP normally reports traffic per interface. If you can get by with a historical total/max bandwidth report, point cacti or other SNMP tool at the switch ports facing the users. Then use ntop for snapshots of protocol usage. If, for example, you are trying to track down the source of a virus, you really only want to see current traffic patterns, not totals that include last week's bittorrent activity.> I don't yet know the full network layout, but I have a feeling they're > using ADSL, and have a Windows Small Business server with ISA, and > possible Exchange as well. So, I'm either going to put a CentOS box > between the Windows box & ADSL router, or maybe even setup a CentOS > Vmware Virtual PC, force all the network to route via the VPS. > > Does anyone have some suggestions / experience in setting up something > like this?As long as you have a manged switch behind the internet router you should be able to set up a mirror (monitor) port to feed a copy to an interface running ntop without actually routing through the Linux box. Or, if the router supports it, it can send netflow records to something that understands them. -- Les Mikesell lesmikesell at gmail.com
Ray Leventhal
2009-Mar-25 16:20 UTC
[CentOS] looking for some advice to monitor network usage in office
Rudi Ahlers wrote:> Hi all, > > I've been asked by a college to setup a monitor to monitor a Windows > network, but on internet usage. They want to have detailed usage, i.e. > on a per IP / PC basis, and if possible to get stats for every > protocol, and see over a period of time what goes on. > > My first though wat ntop, which does all of this, but it doesn't save > the data in a DB, so if the server reboots the stats are reset to 0. I > also can't get Cacti to give me stats per IP & per protocol (unless > someone knows how todo this). > > I don't yet know the full network layout, but I have a feeling they're > using ADSL, and have a Windows Small Business server with ISA, and > possible Exchange as well. So, I'm either going to put a CentOS box > between the Windows box & ADSL router, or maybe even setup a CentOS > Vmware Virtual PC, force all the network to route via the VPS. > > Does anyone have some suggestions / experience in setting up something > like this? > > P.S. Please don't look at the fact that there's Windows on the > network. I use Linux for business purposes, not as a hobby, and we > also use Mac & Windows where the situation calls for it. >Just to add my .02, depending on the traffic level, you may do better with a pre-packaged distro like Endian which provides transparent proxy and reporting. The community edition (what I'm using) sets up very easily and pretty much works out of the box. For our mixed OS network of about 40 workstations, this serves very nicely and does pretty much what you're asking. The only thing I did to the stock install was to have the logs ftp'd to me for archiving so they don't get rotated out of existence during the normal system rotation schedule. (client wants 1yr of history). HTH, -Ray
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