CentOS - Oct 2006 - The elephant in the room: Oracle

So what does everyone else think of Oracle's announcement? http:// 
developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/25/2316221

I kind of think that they are going to be hurting RedHat (a valuable  
partner if you believe their deployment numbers).

Oh silly, silly Larry. I guess the only hope that we have is that it  
actually increases mind share of RHEL and hence broader support for  
it (and subsequently CentOS).

Tarun

> 
> So what does everyone else think of Oracle's announcement? 
> http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/25/2316221
> 
> I kind of think that they are going to be hurting RedHat (a valuable
> partner if you believe their deployment numbers).
> 
> Oh silly, silly Larry. I guess the only hope that we have is that it
> actually increases mind share of RHEL and hence broader support for
> it (and subsequently CentOS).
> 
> Tarun
Historically speaking, if the tremendous spread and growth of Christianity
under persecution is any indication of what lies ahead, then Redhat and
Linux in general should continue to flourish abundantly...

Purchase.... that he might do... once he slams the stock price to the
virtual pittance it was a few times over the last several years.

I just cannot imagine he would buy and kill off one of the greatest mediums
for the potential housing, need, running, and distribution of his products
as RHEL.

 - rh

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Tarun Reddy wrote:
> So what does everyone else think of Oracle's announcement? 
Somebody pointed out on the Fedora list, if you are an Oracle customer 
it can make sense to get the OS support from a one-stop shop, plus if 
you are still worried about SCO you can get IP indemnity.  (They surely 
wouldn't offer the indemnity unless they are pretty damn sure it will 
never be called on, which incidentally is good news for all Linux users).

However as the guy on fedora-list pointed out, what do Oracle know about 
generic Linux server support outside of where it touches Oracle?  Viva 
la Redhat.

-Andy

On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 21:46 -0600, Tarun Reddy wrote:
> So what does everyone else think of Oracle's announcement? http:// 
> developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/25/2316221
>
> I kind of think that they are going to be hurting RedHat (a valuable  
> partner if you believe their deployment numbers).
> 
Well ... IBM, Novell and Oracle were very unhappy when Red Hat bought
JBOSS.  Red Hat has now deployed the Red Hat Web Application Stack that
includes 2 JBOSS application server products and competes with other
middleware produced by Oracle and IBM.

Oracle just considers this tit-for-tat in that they are going to move
into Red Hat's market if Red Hat insists on moving into theirs.

Red Hat made a business decision to grow their business in a different
direction and, according to Oracle, that caused the Oracle action.  It
is too late now to put either genie back in the bottle.

Regardless where you stand on this issue, it should not have come as a
surprise to anyone.

This might have an impact on RHEL, I don't see it having any impact on
CentOS.  (The cost difference between RHEL ES and the Oracle versions
are not that great, at least on i386 ... and any supported oracle
database is going to be on a paid OS anyway, be it Oracle or RHEL)

Thanks,
Johnny Hughes
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On Thu, 2006-10-26 at 09:22 -0500, Johnny Hughes wrote:
> On Wed, 2006-10-25 at 21:46 -0600, Tarun Reddy wrote:
> > So what does everyone else think of Oracle's announcement? http://
> > developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=06/10/25/2316221
> >
> > I kind of think that they are going to be hurting RedHat (a valuable  
> > partner if you believe their deployment numbers).
> > 
> 
> Well ... IBM, Novell and Oracle were very unhappy when Red Hat bought
> JBOSS.  Red Hat has now deployed the Red Hat Web Application Stack that
> includes 2 JBOSS application server products and competes with other
> middleware produced by Oracle and IBM.
> 
> Oracle just considers this tit-for-tat in that they are going to move
> into Red Hat's market if Red Hat insists on moving into theirs.
> 
> Red Hat made a business decision to grow their business in a different
> direction and, according to Oracle, that caused the Oracle action.  It
> is too late now to put either genie back in the bottle.
> 
> Regardless where you stand on this issue, it should not have come as a
> surprise to anyone.
> 
> This might have an impact on RHEL, I don't see it having any impact on
> CentOS.  (The cost difference between RHEL ES and the Oracle versions
> are not that great, at least on i386 ... and any supported oracle
> database is going to be on a paid OS anyway, be it Oracle or RHEL)
> 
> Thanks,
> Johnny Hughes
Yes, but if Red Hat takes measures to protect their sources (like taking
them off-line and making them available only on-request) to slow Oracle
down, it could hurt CentOS.  That would be a shame...