CentOS - Mar 2006 - Centosplus & CentOS Extras, Enlarge your tent

I think Jim (the other one) is doing a marvellous job with extras and
plus but he needs to expand the size of his tent. A sensible package
policy in extras/plus repo will mean fewer temptations to install 3rd
 party repo's that can break your system. Some of the packages i
would like to see are :-

- MySQL 5 rpms
- php 5 rpms (already provided)
- Open Office 2.0 rpms
- webmin
- rkhunter
- chkrootkit
- tripwire
- Adobe, Realplayer & Java plugins (though licensing might be a
hindrance)
- wine from winehq

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On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 05:57 -0800, Jim Smith wrote:
> I think Jim (the other one) is doing a marvellous job with extras and
> plus but he needs to expand the size of his tent. A sensible package
> policy in extras/plus repo will mean fewer temptations to install 3rd
>  party repo's that can break your system. Some of the packages i
> would like to see are :-
> 
> - MySQL 5 rpms
> - php 5 rpms (already provided)
> - Open Office 2.0 rpms
> - webmin
> - rkhunter
> - chkrootkit
> - tripwire
> - Adobe, Realplayer & Java plugins (though licensing might be a
> hindrance)
> - wine from winehq
----
My opinion is that you can trust dag repository which means that you can
pick up webmin from there.

Licensing issues mean that you are very unlikely to see Acrobat Reader,
RealPlayer or Java in 3rd party repositories

I'll let others comment about the rest.

I will say though that so far, I am really thrilled with kde-redhat
repository and they have kept samba up and kde up to date and they have
worked really well so far - thanks Rex

Craig

On Sat, 2006-03-11 at 05:57 -0800, Jim Smith wrote:
> I think Jim (the other one) is doing a marvellous job with extras and
> plus but he needs to expand the size of his tent. A sensible package
> policy in extras/plus repo will mean fewer temptations to install 3rd
>  party repo's that can break your system. Some of the packages i
> would like to see are :-
> 
firstly, we work in conjuction with dag, dries, and kbs-CentOS-xxxx

The only things that are already in there which go into our extras will
be things that they don't have (or things we need to use from there to
complete our dependencies).
> - MySQL 5 rpms
(already in our testing repo)

> - php 5 rpms (already provided)
> - Open Office 2.0 rpms
(this is too hard to build and requires things we don't want to install
on CentOS build machines ... but the OpenOffice website has RPMS that
work OK)
> - webmin
> - rkhunter
> - chkrootkit
> - tripwire
(all or most of these are in dag)
> - Adobe, Realplayer & Java plugins (though licensing might be a
> hindrance)
(as Craig pointed out, we can't due to licensing issues, we also can't
provide mp3 stuff)
> - wine from winehq
{In KBS extras)

Using 3rd party repos is not bad, they just have to be used wisely with
the tools that yum already provides.  (includepkgs, exclude, enable ...
and/or the protectbase plugin)


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On 3/11/06, Jim Smith <jim_smith2006 at yahoo.com>
wrote:
> I think Jim (the other one) is doing a marvellous job with extras and
> plus but he needs to expand the size of his tent. A sensible package
> policy in extras/plus repo will mean fewer temptations to install 3rd
>  party repo's that can break your system. Some of the packages i
> would like to see are :-
>
> - MySQL 5 rpms
> - php 5 rpms (already provided)
> - Open Office 2.0 rpms
> - webmin
> - rkhunter
> - chkrootkit
> - tripwire
> - Adobe, Realplayer & Java plugins (though licensing might be a
> hindrance)
> - wine from winehq
Wow.. I leave to get some breakfast and you guys go and have the
discussion without me! :-P

Johnny covered the basics pretty well. There's no real need to
duplicate packages across repositories that work well together. As to
the one package in the list ( feel free to suggest more )  that is
built for centos but not in centosplus yet, we need feedback. Centos
is to be stable, so we want to make sure that packages work. Mysql 5
has been built and rotting in the development repository because very
few people are providing feedback as to the package's stability. It
works well for me in production, but since I built it, I won't leave
feedback for it. By all means use it, and if it works for you, leave
the appropriate feedback in the tracking bugs assigned to me at
bugs.centos.org.

The way it works. Packages for centosplus are submitted to the
developers, we check package quality, build, stability, etc. We
discuss the packages, and they go to the development repository. If
they get enough positive feedback, they move to centosplus. If not,
they sit there because ostensibly there is no one using/pushing for
them. So if you use these rpms, then leave feedback.

Please, think of the orphaned packages in dev! Only you can prevent
orphaned packages!
Seriously, use them. Leave feedback. It helps us help the community by
providing what they(YOU) want.

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