Brian T. Brunner
2005-Nov-07 20:07 UTC
[CentOS] Re: New Standard/Daylight time-change dates in rhel4u2 butnot centos4.2?
The laws already exist: Disturbing the peace, Misappropriation of public funds, Prohibition on unfunded mandates. What's lacking is prosecutors, judges, and juries who see the politicians as getting in the way of the statesmen and the people. To drag this back towards On Topic, it seems to me that the ntp folks might be petitioned to write up and submit to the Congress, a paper requesting them to keep their danged hands in one-another's pockets, and leave the clock alone. albeit not in those precise words... Brian Brunner brian.t.brunner at gai-tronics.com (610)796-5838>>> thebs413 at earthlink.net 11/07/05 02:50PM >>>Aleksandar Milivojevic <alex at milivojevic.org> wrote:> Those darn politicians, there should be a law to put into > jail for life any politician who even thinks about > proposing any artificial time changes,While my Libertarian ideals agree with you on the fact that politicians live to legislate, but statemen do not, asking for such jail time for doing such would require yet another law. ;-> Seriously now, GMT everything. I have always GMT'd the RTC -- especially with the common "double jump" that Windows used to pull on me (until they fixed that). But I started GMT'ing all systems over the last few years and have been running things according to GMT time. I only setup locale on an individual user-base now. That minimizes such legislation non-sense (among other things). -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers) _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos ******************************************************************* This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. www.hubbell.com - Hubbell Incorporated
Peter Farrow
2005-Nov-07 23:27 UTC
[CentOS] Re: New Standard/Daylight time-change dates in rhel4u2 butnot centos4.2?
For those of us who live the promised land where GMT is absolute time all the this "UTC" nonsense is of little concern.... Those of you across the water cant even bring yourselves to call it GMT, you have hide behind the label of "UTC", it is GMT, Greenwich Mean Time at Zero Longitude... Even Microsoft can get this right (see attached) ;-) (can't wait for the barrage of replies to this one..... tee hee....) ---> Brian, I'm ready: lay it on me.... at least 5 paragraphs please...... Brian T. Brunner wrote:>The laws already exist: > >Disturbing the peace, >Misappropriation of public funds, >Prohibition on unfunded mandates. > >What's lacking is prosecutors, judges, and juries who >see the politicians as getting in the way of the >statesmen and the people. > >To drag this back towards On Topic, it seems to me >that the ntp folks might be petitioned to write up and >submit to the Congress, a paper requesting them to >keep their danged hands in one-another's pockets, >and leave the clock alone. > >albeit not in those precise words... > >Brian Brunner >brian.t.brunner at gai-tronics.com >(610)796-5838 > > > >>>>thebs413 at earthlink.net 11/07/05 02:50PM >>> >>>> >>>> >Aleksandar Milivojevic <alex at milivojevic.org> wrote: > > >>Those darn politicians, there should be a law to put into >>jail for life any politician who even thinks about >>proposing any artificial time changes, >> >> > >While my Libertarian ideals agree with you on the fact that >politicians live to legislate, but statemen do not, asking >for such jail time for doing such would require yet another >law. ;-> > >Seriously now, GMT everything. I have always GMT'd the RTC >-- especially with the common "double jump" that Windows used >to pull on me (until they fixed that). But I started GMT'ing >all systems over the last few years and have been running >things according to GMT time. > >I only setup locale on an individual user-base now. That >minimizes such legislation non-sense (among other things). > > > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20051107/ac3c0e16/attachment.html> -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: gmt.JPG Type: image/jpeg Size: 36596 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20051107/ac3c0e16/attachment.jpe>
Bryan J. Smith
2005-Nov-07 23:37 UTC
[CentOS] [OT] Re: New Standard/Daylight time-change dates in rhel4u2 butnot centos4.2?
Peter Farrow <peter at farrows.org> wrote:> For those of us who live the promised land where GMT is > absolute time all the this "UTC" nonsense is of little > concern.... > Those of you across the water cant even bring yourselves to > call it GMT, you have hide behind the label of "UTC", it is > GMT, Greenwich Mean Time at Zero Longitude... > Even Microsoft can get this right (see attached) ;-) > (can't wait for the barrage of replies to this one..... > tee hee....)You wouldn't happen to be a British national now would you? ;-> I could be wrong, but I thought the reason why it is often referred to as "UTC" instead of "GMT" was to make it less "marketing" of the British geography? I'm sure that also has something to do with the French "Le Meridien" which is recognized in basically that country only.> ---> Brian, I'm ready: lay it on me.... at least 5 > paragraphs please......I already used up my quota on my other posts today, so I short-changed you. ;-> -- Bryan J. Smith | Sent from Yahoo Mail mailto:b.j.smith at ieee.org | (please excuse any http://thebs413.blogspot.com/ | missing headers)
Sam Drinkard
2005-Nov-08 00:37 UTC
[CentOS] Re: New Standard/Daylight time-change dates in rhel4u2 butnot centos4.2?
Peter Farrow wrote:> For those of us who live the promised land where GMT is absolute time > all the this "UTC" nonsense is of little concern.... > > Those of you across the water cant even bring yourselves to call it > GMT, you have hide behind the label of "UTC", it is GMT, Greenwich > Mean Time at Zero Longitude...<snip> How about Zulu time :-) That still works for me, and everybody else who has had dealings with the armed forces or U.S. Gov't (aside the politicians) -- Snowman
Collins Richey
2005-Nov-08 03:22 UTC
[CentOS] Re: New Standard/Daylight time-change dates in rhel4u2 butnot centos4.2?
On 11/7/05, Peter Farrow <peter at farrows.org> wrote:> For those of us who live the promised land where GMT is absolute time all > the this "UTC" nonsense is of little concern.... > > Those of you across the water cant even bring yourselves to call it GMT, > you have hide behind the label of "UTC", it is GMT, Greenwich Mean Time at > Zero Longitude... > > Even Microsoft can get this right (see attached) > > ;-) > > (can't wait for the barrage of replies to this one..... tee hee....) ---> > Brian, I'm ready: lay it on me.... at least 5 paragraphs please...... >Whatever the "reasoning," I'm sure those who prefer UTC over GMT (the real thing) have much in common with those who feel compelled to transmogrify BC (Before Christ) into BCE (Before the Common Era). Blyeach! -- Collins Richey Debugging is twice as hard as writing the code ... If you write the code as cleverly as possible, you are, by definition, not smart enough to debug it. -Brian Kernighan
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