I did something simple; on one window did more/etc/mail/sendmail.cf on another window did lsof -o -b -p XXX -w where XXX is the process number. The SIZE column does not change to OFFSET! the size reflects the size of sendmail.cf - I was hoping the "-o" would change the SIZE column to OFFSET column and show at what offset the program has read into the file? AM I doing something wrong? I am trying to find a way to tell how far a given program has read in a file. THanks so much. Jerry