List users, Did anyone else recently receive spam from DIDForSale with the subject "DIDForSale 2012 achievements"? I suspect that they are using this list to harvest email addresses and think they should be called out on this poor business practice if that is the case. Regards, Matthew Roth InterMedia Marketing Solutions Software Engineer and Systems Developer
I received the same spam myself. Regards, Gary Carr> List users, > > Did anyone else recently receive spam from DIDForSale with the subject > "DIDForSale 2012 achievements"? I suspect that they are using this > list to harvest email addresses and think they should be called out on > this poor business practice if that is the case. > > Regards, > > Matthew Roth > InterMedia Marketing Solutions > Software Engineer and Systems Developer > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
On 01/09/2013 10:20 AM, Doug Lytle wrote:>>> I received the same spam myself.No, I did not. -- Jim Lucas http://www.cmsws.com/ http://www.cmsws.com/examples/
>> I received the same spam myself.Yes. Doug -- Ben Franklin quote: "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
I was about to reply 'no' but thought to check my spam logs so now I reply 'yes.' -- Thanks in advance, ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Edwards sedwards at sedwards.com Voice: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline Fax: +1-760-731-3000
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Matthew J. Roth <mroth at imminc.com> wrote:> I suspect that they are using this > list to harvest email addresses and think they should be called out on > this poor business practice if that is the case. >Perhaps email cnighswonger at foundations.edu, whose previous emails have included references to DIDForSale, implying that he or she is either a customer or an employee. -- -Chris Harrington ACSDi Office: 763.559.5800 Mobile Phone: 612.326.4248 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20130109/36f9103f/attachment.htm>
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote:>>> What were the senders IP(s)? > > Will have to look it up when I get home. > > Doug > > -- > Ben Franklin quote: > > "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-usersI have gotten hit with this twice so far. in March and Today: Rohit Dhaka Rohit at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com 3/8/12 DIDForSale donotreply at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com 1/9/13 UGH, when I asked in March where he got my email he said: Hi Chris, We got your contact from the Internet. Let me know the good time to talk about this in detail. Thank you, -Rohit Dhaka
On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM, chris <tknchris at gmail.com> wrote:> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote: >>>> What were the senders IP(s)? >> >> Will have to look it up when I get home. >> >> Doug >> >> -- >> Ben Franklin quote: >> >> "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." >> >> -- >> _____________________________________________________________________ >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello >> >> asterisk-users mailing list >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > I have gotten hit with this twice so far. in March and Today: > > Rohit Dhaka Rohit at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com > 3/8/12 > > DIDForSale donotreply at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com > 1/9/13 > > UGH, when I asked in March where he got my email he said: > > Hi Chris, > We got your contact from the Internet. Let me know the good time to > talk about this in detail. > Thank you, > -Rohit Dhaka >Obviously by harvesting these lists. I received 2 myself. Thanks, Steve T
+1 here. On Jan 10, 2013 5:50 AM, "Steve Totaro" <stotaro at totarotechnologies.com> wrote:> On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 7:03 PM, chris <tknchris at gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 9, 2013 at 2:02 PM, Doug Lytle <support at drdos.info> wrote: > >>>> What were the senders IP(s)? > >> > >> Will have to look it up when I get home. > >> > >> Doug > >> > >> -- > >> Ben Franklin quote: > >> > >> "Those who would give up Essential Liberty to purchase a little > Temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." > >> > >> -- > >> _____________________________________________________________________ > >> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > >> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > >> http://www.asterisk.org/hello > >> > >> asterisk-users mailing list > >> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > >> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > > > > > I have gotten hit with this twice so far. in March and Today: > > > > Rohit Dhaka Rohit at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com > > 3/8/12 > > > > DIDForSale donotreply at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com > > 1/9/13 > > > > UGH, when I asked in March where he got my email he said: > > > > Hi Chris, > > We got your contact from the Internet. Let me know the good time to > > talk about this in detail. > > Thank you, > > -Rohit Dhaka > > > > Obviously by harvesting these lists. I received 2 myself. > > Thanks, > Steve T > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20130110/6c66baf8/attachment.htm>
On Wed, 9 Jan 2013, chris wrote:> I have gotten hit with this twice so far. in March and Today: > > Rohit Dhaka Rohit at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com 3/8/12 > > DIDForSale donotreply at didforsale.com via mail.bingotelecom.com 1/9/13didforsale.com (209.216.2.251) -> bingotelecom.com (209.216.2.201) -> bingoconsulting.com (209.216.2.251) -- all one big happy family! http://www.bingoconsulting.com/aboutus.php - Jaiparkash Rangi. Jai is Chairman and CTO of the company. http://www.bingoconsulting.com/index.php - BingoConsulting LLC. is an IT consulting firm based in Orange County, California. http://www.bingotelecom.com/privacypolicy.php - ...We at Bingo Telecom respect the privacy of everyone... https://www.didforsale.com/privacypolicy.php - ...We at DID for Sale respect the privacy of everyone... http://www.bingotelecom.com/privacypolicy.php - Unless you have agreed otherwise, we will not use the information that can identify you, such as your e-mail address, for direct marketing purposes. https://www.didforsale.com/privacypolicy.php - Unless you have agreed otherwise, we will not use the information that can identify you, such as your e-mail address, for direct marketing purposes. http://www.bingoconsulting.com/index.php - ...Bingo Consulting is based upon strong values and work ethics... -- Thanks in advance, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Edwards jai-rangi-is-a-douche-bag at sedwards.com v: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline f: +1-760-731-3000
<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;
font-size:10pt;"><div><br></div><div>Although
people complaining of spam may be valid, the one part of complaining about spam
that bothers me, is that some people should look at themselves in the mirror and
ask the question aloud "Why does it bothers me to see another Asterisk
professional compete with me for jobs?", "Why do I get angry at seeing
someone else's solicitation for services I too
provide?"</div><div><br></div><div>In
reality, anyone who solicits customers in this list does a folly thing because
this list has more asterisk consultants than customers. This
list is the equivalent of a Home Depot parking lot full of construction workers
looking for a
job.</div><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, there
is a fine line between being a forum where people can exchange ideas, and being
a forum where people can find asterisk consultants, and both don't seem to
co-exist well
together.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Christian
Savinovich</div><div><strong><em>VoIP & Telephony
Consultant</em></strong></div><div>646-982-3572</div><div> </div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DIDForSale spam<br>
From: Carlos Alvarez <<a
href="mailto:carlos@televolve.com">carlos@televolve.com</a>><br>
Date: Thu, January 10, 2013 3:44 pm<br>
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br>
<<a
href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
<br>
Hopefully it's not, "What is the best DID provider for
Asterisk..."<div><br><br><div
class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Steve Totaro
<span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:stotaro@totarotechnologies.com"
target="_blank">stotaro@totarotechnologies.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br> <blockquote class="gmail_quote"
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex">So what asterisk issue do you have?
Let's fix it.<br> <div
class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br> On Thu,
Jan 10, 2013 at 1:49 PM, Ron Wheeler<br> <<a
target="_blank"
href="mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com">rwheeler@artifact-software.com</a>>
wrote:<br> > That does not solve any asterisk issue that I
have.<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > On 10/01/2013
1:32 PM, Carlos Alvarez wrote:<br> ><br> > On Thu, Jan 10,
2013 at 11:04 AM, Roy Abshire <<a target="_blank"
href="mailto:roy@coopvr.com">roy@coopvr.com</a>>
wrote:<br> >><br> >> It really didn't bother me as
much as reading all the posts but that's<br> >> just me...now
back to Asterisk issues :)<br> ><br> ><br> > Sorry to
add another, but for me, the main point is that this activity<br> >
speaks to the character, ethics, and trustworthiness of the company
doing<br> > it. We all have spam filters. I just
also add the company to my do not<br> > buy/do not recommend
list.<br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > Carlos
Alvarez<br> > TelEvolve<br> > <a target="_blank"
href="tel:602-889-3003"
value="+16028893003">602-889-3003</a><br>
><br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> >
_____________________________________________________________________<br>
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target="_blank">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br>
> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every
Thurs:<br> >
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><br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > Ron
Wheeler<br> > President<br> > Artifact Software Inc<br>
> email: <a target="_blank"
href="mailto:rwheeler@artifact-software.com">rwheeler@artifact-software.com</a><br>
> skype: ronaldmwheeler<br> > phone: <a target="_blank"
href="tel:866-970-2435%2C%20ext%20102"
value="+18669702435">866-970-2435, ext 102</a><br>
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clear="all"><div><br></div>--
<br><div>Carlos
Alvarez</div><div>TelEvolve</div><div>602-889-3003</div><div><br></div>
</div> <hr>--<br>
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<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div><br></div><div>>>>Isn't this precisely the raison d'être for [asterisk-biz]?<br> </div><div><br></div><div>Oh my goodness!, the asteriz-biz? nooo, they will kill you if you try to post anything offering your services!... that list ceased to provide any value and died a long time ago precisely because its members ran each other away from it. A while back, I wrote a nice click-to-call service and I dared put a post indicating that I was offering it for a fee, and in no time they called me "spammer". There is really no incentive to reward someone else's achievements, unless you tell them that you are given them your code for free, then they want it (totally contradicting the meaning of the word "business").<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Christian Savinovich</div><div><strong><em>VoIP & Telephony Consultant</em></strong></div><div>646-982-3572</div><div> </div><div><br><br></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size:10pt; color:black; font-family:verdana;"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DIDForSale spam<br> From: Chris Bagnall <<a href="mailto:asterisk@lists.minotaur.cc">asterisk@lists.minotaur.cc</a>><br> Date: Thu, January 10, 2013 5:17 pm<br> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br> <<a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br> <br> On 10 Jan 2013, at 22:09, C. Savinovich <<a href="mailto:c.savinovich@itntelecom.com">c.savinovich@itntelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br> <br>> Unfortunately, there is a fine line between being a forum where people can exchange ideas, and being a forum where people can find asterisk consultants, and both don't seem to co-exist well together.<br><br> Isn't this precisely the raison d'être for [asterisk-biz]?<br> <br> <br> Kind regards,<br> <br> Chris<br> -- <br> This email is made from 100% recycled electrons<br> <br> <br> --<br> _____________________________________________________________________<br> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:<br> <a href="http://www.asterisk.org/hello">http://www.asterisk.org/hello</a><br> <br> asterisk-users mailing list<br> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br> </div> </blockquote></span></body></html>
<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div>>>>There is a big difference between publicly posting offering services to the list and harvesting all the email addresses and them contacting everyone privately<br> </div><div><br></div><div>No way in the world I am going to take side with those guys, I don't know them from a whole in the wall. But your reply begs for the following question: Are you saying that if they would have posted in the regular forum offering their services, then it would have been okay with you?</div><div><br></div><div>Christian Savinovich</div><div><strong><em>VoIP & Telephony Consultant</em></strong></div><div>646-982-3572</div><div> </div><div><br><br></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size:10pt; color:black; font-family:verdana;"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DIDForSale spam<br> From: chris <<a href="mailto:tknchris@gmail.com">tknchris@gmail.com</a>><br> Date: Thu, January 10, 2013 5:34 pm<br> To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br> <<a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br> <br> There is a big difference between publicly posting offering services<br> to the list and harvesting all the email addresses and them contacting<br> everyone privately<br> <br> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 5:32 PM, C. Savinovich<br> <<a href="mailto:c.savinovich@itntelecom.com">c.savinovich@itntelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br>><br> >>>>Isn't this precisely the raison d'être for [asterisk-biz]?<br> ><br> > Oh my goodness!, the asteriz-biz? nooo, they will kill you if you try to<br> > post anything offering your services!... that list ceased to provide any<br> > value and died a long time ago precisely because its members ran each other<br> > away from it. A while back, I wrote a nice click-to-call service and I<br> > dared put a post indicating that I was offering it for a fee, and in no time<br> > they called me "spammer". There is really no incentive to reward someone<br> > else's achievements, unless you tell them that you are given them your code<br> > for free, then they want it (totally contradicting the meaning of the word<br> > "business").<br> ><br> ><br> > Christian Savinovich<br> > VoIP & Telephony Consultant<br> > 646-982-3572<br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > -------- Original Message --------<br> > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] DIDForSale spam<br> > From: Chris Bagnall <<a href="mailto:asterisk@lists.minotaur.cc">asterisk@lists.minotaur.cc</a>><br> > Date: Thu, January 10, 2013 5:17 pm<br> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<br> > <<a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br> ><br> > On 10 Jan 2013, at 22:09, C. Savinovich <<a href="mailto:c.savinovich@itntelecom.com">c.savinovich@itntelecom.com</a>> wrote:<br> ><br> >> Unfortunately, there is a fine line between being a forum where people can<br> >> exchange ideas, and being a forum where people can find asterisk<br> >> consultants, and both don't seem to co-exist well together.<br> ><br> > Isn't this precisely the raison d'être for [asterisk-biz]?<br> ><br> ><br> > Kind regards,<br> ><br> > Chris<br> > --<br> > This email is made from 100% recycled electrons<br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > _____________________________________________________________________<br> > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:<br> > <a href="http://www.asterisk.org/hello">http://www.asterisk.org/hello</a><br> ><br> > asterisk-users mailing list<br> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> > <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > _____________________________________________________________________<br> > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:<br> > <a href="http://www.asterisk.org/hello">http://www.asterisk.org/hello</a><br> ><br> > asterisk-users mailing list<br> > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> > <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br><br> --<br> _____________________________________________________________________<br> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:<br> <a href="http://www.asterisk.org/hello">http://www.asterisk.org/hello</a><br> <br> asterisk-users mailing list<br> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br> </div> </blockquote></span></body></html>
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013, C. Savinovich wrote:> Are you saying that if they would have posted? in the regular forum > offering their services, then it would have been okay with you?Yes. On the -biz list. -- Thanks in advance, --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Steve Edwards jai-rangi-is-a-douche-bag at sedwards.com v: +1-760-468-3867 PST Newline f: +1-760-731-3000