virendra bhati
2012-Aug-03 04:27 UTC
[asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as extension's next priority
Hi Team, I want to used *'n*' as priority in asterisk realtime but asterisk don't support n as next priority.... I am using Asterisk 1.4.41 -- Thanks and regards Virendra Bhati +91-9718300881 Asterisk Developer E-mail-: virbhati at gmail.com Skype id:- virbhati2 New Delhi(India) -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20120803/3f31b22e/attachment.htm>
Leandro Dardini
2012-Aug-03 06:20 UTC
[asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as extension's next priority
It is reasonable 'n' is not usable as priority number. How can asterisk know the second priority if all other priority have 'n' as priority number? In a relational database there is no 'sequential read'. In other words, you need to assign the priority to all entries. Leandro Il giorno 03/ago/2012 06:27, "virendra bhati" <virbhati at gmail.com> ha scritto:> Hi Team, > > I want to used *'n*' as priority in asterisk realtime but asterisk don't > support n as next priority.... > > I am using Asterisk 1.4.41 > > -- > > Thanks and regards > > Virendra Bhati > +91-9718300881 > Asterisk Developer > E-mail-: virbhati at gmail.com > Skype id:- virbhati2 > New Delhi(India) > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20120803/351e3ded/attachment.htm>
A J Stiles
2012-Aug-03 10:01 UTC
[asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as extension's next priority
On Friday 03 August 2012, virendra bhati wrote:> Hi Team, > > I want to used *'n*' as priority in asterisk realtime but asterisk don't > support n as next priority.... > > I am using Asterisk 1.4.41Well, what you are wanting would be mathematically impossible! A simple text file is read sequentially, so you can infer priorities from the position of lines within the file. A database is truly random-access, and so doesn't have any such natural ordering. You have to indicate the sequence explicitly within a field in each record, and refer to this with an ORDER BY clause. -- AJS Answers come *after* questions.
Bryant Zimmerman
2012-Aug-03 12:53 UTC
[asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as extension's next priority
Leandro
I have to disagree reasonable designers would have done a better job with
this one. But we developers are not always so reasonable. The issue is many
developers when pushing to put features in they don't put on their
designers hat and think out side the box first.Heaven knows I have been
guilty of this one over the years and had to go back and refactor. It is
not so reasonable to think that this limitation has to exist developers
have been putting order by fields in db driven systems for years. What of
the guy who want's to use n(target) or 4(target) (I know this may have not
been an option when RT was first done now it is) so they can add
specialized jumping code. If I had been designing the Realtime (today) I
would have added a field for the priority and made it a full alpha /
numeric and added an order by field. As it sits now how do you do n, i, h
or tags ect.... It kinda sucks and limits the Realtime. Not to bash on the
developer who did this I get that we don't always think out side the box
all the time nor was some of this ability available when the RT was
written. but know it does so what do we do. Unfortunately I am not a ansi C
guy or I could probably fix it .
Thanks
Bryant Zimmerman (ZK Tech Inc.)
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It is reasonable 'n' is not usable as priority number. How can asterisk
know the second priority if all other priority have 'n' as priority
number?
In a relational database there is no 'sequential read'.
In other words, you need to assign the priority to all entries.
Leandro Il giorno 03/ago/2012 06:27, "virendra bhati" <virbhati at
gmail.com>
ha scritto: Hi Team,
I want to used 'n' as priority in asterisk realtime but asterisk
don't
support n as next priority....
I am using Asterisk 1.4.41
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Virendra Bhati
+91-9718300881
Asterisk Developer
E-mail-: virbhati at gmail.com
Skype id:- virbhati2
New Delhi(India)
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C. Savinovich
2012-Aug-03 14:54 UTC
[asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as extension's next priority
<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000;
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style="font-family: Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; clear:
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mce_style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Not
to bash on the developer who did this I get that we don't always think out
side the box all the
time</span></span><br></div><div><br></div><div>You
can bash others all you want for not thinking outside the box, but where is your
effort to think outside the box yourself?. All you have to do,
(that's what I did, and took me like 4 hours) is write a program that parses
through your dialplan code and translates the n's into actual numbers,
including the translation of the gotos into line numbers. Sucks?
yes. Is the realtime limitation going to stop me from doing what I
want? no
way.<br></div><div><br></div><div>Christian
Savinovich</div><div><strong><em>VoIP & Telephony
Consultant</em></strong></div><div>646-982-3572</div><div> </div><div><br><br></div>
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Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n'
as<br>
extension's next priority<br>
From: Leandro Dardini <<a
href="mailto:ldardini@gmail.com">ldardini@gmail.com</a>><br>
Date: Fri, August 03, 2012 10:11 am<br>
To: <a
href="mailto:bryantz@zktech.com">bryantz@zktech.com</a>,
Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial<br>
Discussion <<a
href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
<br>
I am kissing every inch of land where each one of the asterisk's developer
is putting his feet. In the last 10 years I have worked thanks to the
availability of the asterisk code. Most of my income was possible just thanks to
asterisk, so I am pretty biased when trying to evaluate if the asterisk code is
good or not. You can understand if I "love" the way asterisk has been
coded.<div> Nevertheless things can be better and they can be better
thanks to you. Asterisk is open source and Mark is a very kind person when you
submit patches, so put your ideas in new code and send to him. If you don't
know how to code, hire some developer and have him to code your view of a better
RT code. If it will be accepted by the core developer, all us will be happy. if
it will not accepted, you'll be happy with you own personal branch. I run
for a small period of time my personal asterisk tree because the italian
telephony system is flawed and clients want services not suitable for the
general asterisk audience, so there is nothing to worry to have your personal
asterisk code.</div>
<div><br></div><div>Leandro</div><div><br></div><div>PS</div><div>I
think your idea of extension RT can be accomplished with some triggers and
replacing the extension table with a view on your own n-enabled extension
table<br> <br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/8/3
Bryant Zimmerman <span dir="ltr"><<a
href="mailto:BryantZ@zktech.com"
target="_blank">BryantZ@zktech.com</a>></span><br><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <span
style="font-family:Arial,Helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt">Leandro<br>
<br> I have to disagree reasonable designers would have done a better job
with this one. But we developers are not always so reasonable. The issue is
many developers when pushing to put features in they
don't put on their designers hat and think out side the box
first.Heaven knows I have been guilty of this one over the
years and had to go back and refactor. It is not so
reasonable to think that this limitation has to exist developers have
been putting order by fields in db driven systems for years.
What of the guy who want's to use n(target) or 4(target) (I know this may
have not been an option when RT was first done now it is) so they can
add specialized jumping code. If I had been designing the Realtime
(today) I would have added a field for the priority and made it a full alpha /
numeric and added an order by field. As it sits now how do you do n,
i, h or tags ect.... It kinda sucks and limits the Realtime. Not to
bash on the developer who did this I get that we don't always think out side
the box all the time nor was some of this ability available when the RT
was written. but know it does so what do we do. Unfortunately I am not a ansi C
guy or I could probably fix it . <br> <br>
<div>Thanks<br> <br> Bryant Zimmerman (ZK Tech
Inc.)<br> <br> <span
style="font-family:tahoma,arial,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><hr
align="center" size="2" width="100%">
<b>From</b>: "Leandro Dardini" <<a
href="mailto:ldardini@gmail.com"
target="_blank">ldardini@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>Sent</b>: Friday, August 03, 2012 2:18 AM<br>
<b>To</b>: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial
Discussion" <<a
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target="_blank">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br>
<b>Subject</b>: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't
support 'n' as extension's next priority</span><br>
<br> </div><div class="im"> <div>It is
reasonable 'n' is not usable as priority number. How can
asterisk know the second priority if all other priority have 'n' as
priority number? In a relational database there is no 'sequential
read'.</div> <div>In other words, you need to assign the
priority to all entries. </div> <div>Leandro</div>
</div><div class="gmail_quote"><div
class="im">Il giorno 03/ago/2012 06:27, "virendra bhati"
<<a href="mailto:virbhati@gmail.com"
target="_blank">virbhati@gmail.com</a>> ha scritto:<br
type="attribution"> </div><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:#ccc 1px solid;margin:0px
0px 0px 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex"> <div dir="ltr">Hi
Team,<br> <br> I want to used <b>'n</b>' as
priority in asterisk realtime but asterisk don't support n as next
priority....<div class="im"><br> <br> I am using
Asterisk 1.4.41 <br clear="all"> <br></div><div
class="im"> -- <br> <div dir="ltr"><br>
Thanks and regards<br> <br> Virendra Bhati<br>
<span style="color:#888888"><a target="_blank"
value="+919718300881">+91-9718300881</a></span><br>
Asterisk Developer<br> E-mail-: <a
href="mailto:virbhati@gmail.com"
target="_blank">virbhati@gmail.com</a><br> Skype id:-
virbhati2<br> New Delhi(India)<br> </div> <br>
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C. Savinovich
2012-Aug-03 16:35 UTC
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<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div><br></div><div>AJ,</div><div><br></div><div> You don't use 'n's in your dialplan?, you number it yourself? man, what if you have a 300 line dialplan and then you decide to insert a new line in the middle?<br></div><div><br></div><div>Christian Savinovich</div><div><strong><em>VoIP & Telephony Consultant</em></strong></div><div>646-982-3572</div><div> </div><div><br><br></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size:10pt; color:black; font-family:verdana;"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as<br> extension's next priority<br> From: A J Stiles <<a href="mailto:asterisk_list@earthshod.co.uk">asterisk_list@earthshod.co.uk</a>><br> Date: Fri, August 03, 2012 11:45 am<br> To: "Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion"<br> <<a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a>><br> <br> On Friday 03 August 2012, C. Savinovich wrote:<br>> >>>Not to bash on the developer who did this I get that we don't always<br> > >>>think out side the box all the time<br> > <br> > You can bash others all you want for not thinking outside the box, but<br> > where is your effort to think outside the box yourself?. All you have to<br> > do, (that's what I did, and took me like 4 hours) is write a program that<br> > parses through your dialplan code and translates the n's into actual<br> > numbers, including the translation of the gotos into line numbers. Sucks?<br> > yes. Is the realtime limitation going to stop me from doing what I want?<br> > no way.<br><br> That is the sort of thing that might actually be worth submitting upstream. <br> There must be loads of dialplans out there that use "same", "n" and labels all <br> over the place. The only reason mine don't, is because I've been using <br> Asterisk since before these features were introduced and I got used to the old <br> ways.<br> <br> -- <br> AJS<br> <br> Answers come *after* questions.<br> <br> --<br> _____________________________________________________________________<br> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:<br> <a href="http://www.asterisk.org/hello">http://www.asterisk.org/hello</a><br> <br> asterisk-users mailing list<br> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br> </div> </blockquote></span></body></html>
C. Savinovich
2012-Aug-03 18:58 UTC
[asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as extension's next priority
<html><body><span style="font-family:Verdana; color:#000000; font-size:10pt;"><div><br></div><div>Basic?... no man, I am kid!<br></div><div><br></div><div>Christian Savinovich</div><div><strong><em>VoIP & Telephony Consultant</em></strong></div><div>646-982-3572</div><div> </div><div><br><br></div> <blockquote id="replyBlockquote" webmail="1" style="border-left: 2px solid blue; margin-left: 8px; padding-left: 8px; font-size:10pt; color:black; font-family:verdana;"> <div id="wmQuoteWrapper"> -------- Original Message --------<br> Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Asterisk realtime don't support 'n' as<br> extension's next priority<br> From: "Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)" <<a href="mailto:raju@linux-delhi.org">raju@linux-delhi.org</a>><br> Date: Fri, August 03, 2012 2:21 pm<br> To: <a href="mailto:asterisk-users@lists.digium.com">asterisk-users@lists.digium.com</a><br> <br> On Friday 03 Aug 2012, C. Savinovich wrote:<br>> You don't use 'n's in your dialplan?, you number it yourself?<br> > man, what if you have a 300 line dialplan and then you decide to<br> > insert a new line in the middle?<br><br> If you ever used BASIC you'd remember the trick is to increment line <br> numbers (priorities) by 10. I presume a dialplan would work fine even <br> if the priorities aren't sequential, as long as they're increasing <br> monotonically.<br> <br> Could someone confirm?<br> <br> Having said that, I use n with abandon.<br> <br> Regards,<br> <br> -- Raj<br> -- <br> Raj Mathur || <a href="mailto:raju@kandalaya.org">raju@kandalaya.org</a> || GPG:<br> <a href="http://otheronepercent.blogspot.com">http://otheronepercent.blogspot.com</a> || <a href="http://kandalaya.org">http://kandalaya.org</a> || CC68<br> It is the mind that moves || <a href="http://schizoid.in">http://schizoid.in</a> || D17F<br> <br> --<br> _____________________________________________________________________<br> -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> --<br> New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs:<br> <a href="http://www.asterisk.org/hello">http://www.asterisk.org/hello</a><br> <br> asterisk-users mailing list<br> To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<br> <a href="http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users">http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users</a><br> </div> </blockquote></span></body></html>