asterisk users - Oct 2011 - CallerID inconsistently presented through ISDN/cellular networks

Hi,

I'm facing a strange problem.

My setup is:
Alice cellphone <--GSM--><--ISDN--> Asterisk <-- ISDN
--><--GSM--> Bob
cellphone

When Alice calls Asterisk which forwards the incoming call to Bob, sometimes
Bob sees Alice's number, sometimes he sees a default CallerID (which happens
to match the dialed number and the ANI).
For various reasons, Bob really needs to see Alice's number when Alice is
calling.

When I compare one "successful" (ie presented with Alice ID) calls
with one
"unsuccessful" (with debug and verbose levels respectively set to 0
and 3),
I can't see any difference between both calls within Asterisk logs :
every time Asterisk, receives Alice CallerID and set outgoing channel
CallerID with the same value.
(The only I could find, at the moment, to distinguish a successful call is
to call Bob and ask him to tell what happened).

If that matters, let me add this:
- each incoming call is forwarded with a simple Answer(), Dial() sequence,
- when I'm presenting an outgoing with too many digits, the call is
presented with a default CallerID.

My understanding is "as each network used is purely digital, you can't
loose
CallerID".
Is this roughly correct ?
In which direction, shall I dig ?


Regards
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On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:06 AM, Olivier <oza_4h07 at yahoo.fr> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I'm facing a strange problem.
>
> My setup is:
> Alice cellphone <--GSM--><--ISDN--> Asterisk <-- ISDN
--><--GSM--> Bob
> cellphone
>
> When Alice calls Asterisk which forwards the incoming call to Bob,
> sometimes Bob sees Alice's number, sometimes he sees a default CallerID
> (which happens to match the dialed number and the ANI).
> For various reasons, Bob really needs to see Alice's number when Alice
is
> calling.
>
Is the outbound leg of the call always going out over the same outbound
provider?

Step up the verbose level to 10 and then make a few test calls until you've
got a successful callerID and an unsuccessful callerID, then paste an
example of each call (the complete call, from the initial inbound to the
hangup on the other end) in another email and we can review them for any
discrepancies.

-- 
Thanks,
--Warren Selby, dCAP
http://www.SelbyTech.com <http://www.selbytech.com>
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On Tuesday 11 October 2011, Olivier wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I'm facing a strange problem.
> 
> My setup is:
> Alice cellphone <--GSM--><--ISDN--> Asterisk <-- ISDN
--><--GSM--> Bob
> cellphone
> 
> When Alice calls Asterisk which forwards the incoming call to Bob,
> sometimes Bob sees Alice's number, sometimes he sees a default CallerID
> (which happens to match the dialed number and the ANI).
> For various reasons, Bob really needs to see Alice's number when Alice
is
> calling.
> 
> When I compare one "successful" (ie presented with Alice ID)
calls with one
> "unsuccessful" (with debug and verbose levels respectively set to
0 and 3),
> I can't see any difference between both calls within Asterisk logs :
> every time Asterisk, receives Alice CallerID and set outgoing channel
> CallerID with the same value.
> (The only I could find, at the moment, to distinguish a successful call is
> to call Bob and ask him to tell what happened).
> 
> If that matters, let me add this:
> - each incoming call is forwarded with a simple Answer(), Dial() sequence,
> - when I'm presenting an outgoing with too many digits, the call is
> presented with a default CallerID.
> 
> My understanding is "as each network used is purely digital, you
can't
> loose CallerID".
> Is this roughly correct ?
> In which direction, shall I dig ?
Most telcos won't let you present a caller ID number that doesn't belong
to
you; so it's possible that the number you are presenting to Bob is being 
munged on the way to his mobile.  Otherwise, anybody with the right equipment 
would be able to pretend to be anybody else, and caller ID would be all but 
useless.

Anyway, what you really need to do is separate the two legs of the call, to 
see whether the number is changing between Alice and your Asterisk or between 
your Asterisk and Bob.  So put a Verbose() or NoOp() in your dialplan to see 
what caller ID Alice is sending, and get her to call you several times.  Then 
create a context to call Bob  (presenting Alice's number)  from a SIP phone,
and call him several times.



-- 
AJS

Answers come *after* questions.

When you say 2/3 of calls, is there an inconsistency to the same recipient
or could it be a carrier issue (Verizon only, T-Mobile only, etc.)?

 

From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com
[mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Olivier
Sent: Friday, November 04, 2011 3:33 AM
To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] CallerID inconsistently presented through
ISDN/cellular networks

 

 

2011/11/3 Danny Nicholas <danny at debsinc.com>

<snip>


[callbob]


Exten => _XX.,1,answer

Exten => _XX.,n,Set(CALLERID(num)=${EXTEN})

Exten => _XX.,n,Dial(DAHDI/1/5551212,30)