Bruce et al. I'm posting a new thread with the "Top Posting" subject so I won't draw complaints about "hijacking" the 4-port thread. Top Posting refers to the practice of sending a message with a reply at the top and including the entire thread below the reply. I prefer this. If I'm actively following a thread, the most-recent information appears at the top of the message I receive. If I've missed part of the thread, I need to look only at the most recent message and scroll down a bit to see what's been happening. Bottom Posting requires me to scroll through all of the history before I see the newest addition. While scrolling down, I may see something new and realize that the sender has interleaved responses, addressing multiple points with individual responses. It's been a while, but when I researched "Top Posting" I found this Wikipedia description: "Top-posting is a natural consequence of the behavior of the "reply" function in many current e-mail readers, such as Microsoft Outlook <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook> , Gmail <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmail> , and others. By default, these programs insert into the reply message a copy of the original message (without headers and often without any extra indentation or quotation markers), and position the editing cursor <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursor_%28computers%29> above it. Moreover, a bug present on most flavours of Microsoft Outlook caused the quotation markers to be lost when replying in plain text to a message that was originally sent in HTML/RTF. In addition, users of mobile devices <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_device> , like BlackBerries <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry> , are encouraged to use top-posting, because the devices only download the beginning of a message for viewing. The rest of the message is only retrieved when needed, which takes additional download time. Putting the relevant content at the beginning of the message requires less bandwidth, less time, and less scrolling for the Blackberry user.[4] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#cite_note-3> [5] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#cite_note-4> [6] <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#cite_note-5> For these and possibly other reasons, many users seem to accept top-posting as the "standard" reply style." .and an explanation of why people complain about it: "Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from persons who first went online in the earlier days of Usenet <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet> , and in communities that date to Usenet's early days. Until the mid-90s, top-posting was unknown and interleaved posting an obvious standard that all net.newcomers had to learn. Among the most vehement communities are those in the Usenet <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comp.*_hierarchy> comp.lang hierarchy, especially comp.lang.c and comp.lang.c++. Top-posting is more tolerated on the <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.*_hierarchy> alt hierarchy. Newer online participants, especially those with limited experience of Usenet, tend to be less sensitive to arguments about posting style." When I post (which is rarely, as I have little to offer the list), I top post and explain that it's my preference and I don't know how to do it effectively otherwise. This gives everyone fair warning to delete my posts before reading them. --Don Don Kelly PCF Corp People Come First 651 842-1000 888 Don Kell(y) 651 842-1001 fax -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20110114/f4458716/attachment.htm>
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Although I've succumbed to bottom posting on occasion when following the convention of the ongoing thread.<br> <br> On 01/14/2011 07:42 PM, Don Kelly wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:96938BF05C2446AD92DAB864CA66FC02@DonPC" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <meta name="Generator" content="Microsoft Word 11 (filtered medium)"> <style> <!-- /* Style Definitions */ p.MsoNormal, li.MsoNormal, div.MsoNormal         {margin:0in;         margin-bottom:.0001pt;         font-size:12.0pt;         font-family:"Times New Roman";} a:link, span.MsoHyperlink         {color:blue;         text-decoration:underline;} a:visited, span.MsoHyperlinkFollowed         {color:purple;         text-decoration:underline;} p         {mso-margin-top-alt:auto;         margin-right:0in;         mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;         margin-left:0in;         font-size:12.0pt;         font-family:"Times New Roman";} span.EmailStyle17         {mso-style-type:personal-compose;         font-family:Arial;         color:windowtext;} @page Section1         {size:8.5in 11.0in;         margin:1.0in 1.25in 1.0in 1.25in;} div.Section1         {page:Section1;} --> </style> <div class="Section1"> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bruce et al…<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">I’m posting a new thread with the “Top Posting” subject so I won’t draw complaints about “hijacking” the 4-port thread.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Top Posting refers to the practice of sending a message with a reply at the top and including the entire thread below the reply. I prefer this. If I’m actively following a thread, the most-recent information appears at the top of the message I receive. If I’ve missed part of the thread, I need to look only at the most recent message and scroll down a bit to see what’s been happening.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">Bottom Posting requires me to scroll through all of the history before I see the newest addition.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">While scrolling down, I may see something new and realize that the sender has interleaved responses, addressing multiple points with individual responses.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">It’s been a while, but when I researched “Top Posting” I found this Wikipedia description:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">“</span></font>Top-posting is a natural consequence of the behavior of the "reply" function in many current e-mail readers, such as <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Microsoft_Outlook" title="Microsoft Outlook">Microsoft Outlook</a>, <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gmail" title="Gmail">Gmail</a>, and others. By default, these programs insert into the reply message a copy of the original message (without headers and often without any extra indentation or quotation markers), and position the editing <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cursor_%28computers%29" title="Cursor (computers)">cursor</a> above it. Moreover, a bug present on most flavours of Microsoft Outlook caused the quotation markers to be lost when replying in plain text to a message that was originally sent in HTML/RTF. In addition, users of <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handheld_device" title="Handheld device">mobile devices</a>, like <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BlackBerry" title="BlackBerry">BlackBerries</a>, are encouraged to use top-posting, because the devices only download the beginning of a message for viewing. The rest of the message is only retrieved when needed, which takes additional download time. Putting the relevant content at the beginning of the message requires less bandwidth, less time, and less scrolling for the Blackberry user.<sup id="cite_ref-3"><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#cite_note-3">[4]</a><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#cite_note-4">[5]</a><a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#cite_note-5">[6]</a></sup> For these and possibly other reasons, many users seem to accept top-posting as the "standard" reply style.”<font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;"><o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN">…and an </span></font><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">explanation of why people complain about it:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;">“Objections to top-posting on newsgroups, as a rule, seem to come from persons who first went online in the earlier days of <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet" title="Usenet">Usenet</a>, and in communities that date to Usenet's early days. Until the mid-90s, top-posting was unknown and interleaved posting an obvious standard that all net.newcomers had to learn. Among the most vehement communities are those in the Usenet <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comp.*_hierarchy" title="Comp.* hierarchy"><i><span style="font-style: italic;">comp.lang</span></i> hierarchy</a>, especially comp.lang.c and comp.lang.c++. Top-posting is more tolerated on the <a moz-do-not-send="true" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alt.*_hierarchy" title="Alt.* hierarchy"><i><span style="font-style: italic;">alt</span></i> hierarchy</a>. Newer online participants, especially those with limited experience of Usenet, tend to be less sensitive to arguments about posting style.”<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;">When I post (which is rarely, as I have little to offer the list), I top post and explain that it’s my preference and I don’t know how to do it effectively otherwise. This gives everyone fair warning to delete my posts before reading them.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN">--Don</span></font><span lang="EN"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN">Don Kelly</span></font><span lang="EN"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p><font face="Arial" size="2"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial;" lang="EN">PCF Corp<br> People Come First<br> 651 842-1000<br> 888 Don Kell(y)<br> 651 842-1001 fax</span></font><span lang="EN"><o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><font face="Times New Roman" size="3"><span style="font-size: 12pt;"><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </div> <pre wrap=""> <fieldset class="mimeAttachmentHeader"></fieldset> -- _____________________________________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.api-digital.com">http://www.api-digital.com</a> -- New to Asterisk? 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On 11-01-14 07:42 PM, Don Kelly wrote:> Top Posting refers to the practice of sending a message with a reply at the > top and including the entire thread below the reply. I prefer this. If I'm > actively following a thread, the most-recent information appears at the top > of the message I receive. If I've missed part of the thread, I need to look > only at the most recent message and scroll down a bit to see what's been > happening. >It is not a matter of preference, it is actually a rule [1]. Top-posting is also an annoying practice [2] and NOT the general accepted way to reply. [1] http://www.asterisk.org/community/rules [2] http://linux.sgms-centre.com/misc/netiquette.php#toppost -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com & http://asterisk.org
-----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman Lesher Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:53 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Sunday 16 January 2011 21:18:54 William Kenworthy wrote:> Peoples email clients, work habits and environment mean that people to > work the way thats comfortable to them. You want your mails read, you > work with them, not get on a soap box and say "YOU MUST BOTTOM POST".That was exactly my original point. If the list administrators are the experts, and they say to bottom post, then pissing off the experts is a way to ensure that you get the least help, when asking a question. Follow list etiquette to get the best possible answers. Eqiquette? Can most posters even spell that word, much less define it? Apologies to my fellow list members for opening this round of "flame warfare".
On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 1:12 PM, Danny Nicholas <danny at debsinc.com> wrote:> -----Original Message----- > From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com > [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tilghman > Lesher > Sent: Monday, January 17, 2011 11:53 AM > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion > Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting > > On Sunday 16 January 2011 21:18:54 William Kenworthy wrote: >> Peoples email clients, work habits and environment mean that people to >> work the way thats comfortable to them. ?You want your mails read, you >> work with them, not get on a soap box and say "YOU MUST BOTTOM POST". > > That was exactly my original point. ?If the list administrators are the > experts, and they say to bottom post, then pissing off the experts is a wayClearly the answer is to compromise and start a new trend of middle posting.> to ensure that you get the least help, when asking a question. ?Follow list > etiquette to get the best possible answers. > > Eqiquette? ?Can most posters even spell that word, much less define it? > Apologies to my fellow list members for opening this round of "flame > warfare". > > > -- > _____________________________________________________________________ > -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- > New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: > ? ? ? ? ? ? ? http://www.asterisk.org/hello > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > ? http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >
Top posting? Who cares? Get a life! Now - can we get back to Asterisk et al? Thanks! -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mark Murawski Sent: 18 January 2011 02:57 To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On 01/17/2011 08:26 PM, Matt Riddell wrote:> On 17/01/11 4:29 PM, jon pounder wrote: >> Surely there is some mail client smart enough to be able to flip >> around the levels of indenting so most recent is top or bottom. If >> not quit bitching and make one - I will continue top posting since I >> don't seem to be alone in preferring it. >That was one of the first things that came to mind.> I'm definitely more keen on inline replies - if you reply to 20 points> in someone's email you quote the part you're replying to then reply to> it.That was the standard for much of the 90's for emails. I do like that method but most people don't seem to do it anymore.> > In a long email it's the only way. Otherwise you'd scroll down to find> the question, scroll up to find the answer, scroll down to find the > next question, scroll up for the next answer etc - crazy. >It's also easier to keep the context of what's going on. If replying in one big block, I try to keep the style of one paragraph of response for each paragraph of question, but sometimes stuff just mixes in between and you can easily lose context.> Much easier when replies are inline with the questions. >It gets hard to follow when there's a dozen nested levels of reply. In conclusion, I think it "just depends" (tm). -- _____________________________________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users If you have received this communication in error we would appreciate you advising us either by telephone or return of e-mail. The contents of this message, and any attachments, are the property of DataVox, and are intended for the confidential use of the named recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient, take note that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be subject to civil or criminal action for which you may be liable. Every effort has been made to ensure that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses. While the company has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise this risk, neither company, nor the sender can accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of viruses. It is recommended that you should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachments. Registered in England. No. 27459085.
On 11-01-18 04:22 AM, Andrew Thomas wrote:> Top posting? Who cares? Get a life! >Clearly not you, so why both even replying? At worst case it is just redundant information for people, best case somebody reads the email thread at starts bottom posting. I suggest taking a moment and re-reading the thread.> If you have received this communication in error we would appreciate > you advising us either by telephone or return of e-mail. The contents > of this message, and any attachments, are the property of DataVox, > and are intended for the confidential use of the named recipient only. > If you are not the intended recipient, employee or agent responsible > for delivery of this message to the intended recipient, take note that > any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and > its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be subject to civil or > criminal action for which you may be liable. > Every effort has been made to ensure that this e-mail or any attachments > are free from viruses. While the company has taken every reasonable > precaution to minimise this risk, neither company, nor the sender can > accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of viruses. > It is recommended that you should carry out your own virus checks > before opening any attachments. > > Registered in England. No. 27459085. >Additionally, do you really need a 17 line[1] signature? [1] - http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/email/4.png -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com & http://asterisk.org
Why do I top post? Simple. I read every message in the thread - and if there are 10 messages (for example) in that thread - then why should I have to read them all over again on the last one? Top posting is here - to stay! Stop being so anal and 'retro'. Bottom posting belongs in forums - top post belongs in e-mail lists. There - said it! As for my sig/disclaimer - how about 10 copies of it before you get a reply? That's what bottom posting would have done for you! Anyway "Digium, Inc. | Software Developer" means you should be developing software - not replying to inane posts like mine :P Have a nice day! -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Paul Belanger Sent: 18 January 2011 14:35 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On 11-01-18 04:22 AM, Andrew Thomas wrote:> Top posting? Who cares? Get a life! >Clearly not you, so why both even replying? At worst case it is just redundant information for people, best case somebody reads the email thread at starts bottom posting. I suggest taking a moment and re-reading the thread.> If you have received this communication in error we would appreciate > you advising us either by telephone or return of e-mail. The contents > of this message, and any attachments, are the property of DataVox, and> are intended for the confidential use of the named recipient only. If > you are not the intended recipient, employee or agent responsible for > delivery of this message to the intended recipient, take note that any> dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its > attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be subject to civil or > criminal action for which you may be liable. Every effort has been > made to ensure that this e-mail or any attachments are free from > viruses. While the company has taken every reasonable precaution to > minimise this risk, neither company, nor the sender can accept > liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of viruses. It > is recommended that you should carry out your own virus checks before > opening any attachments. > > Registered in England. No. 27459085. >Additionally, do you really need a 17 line[1] signature? [1] - http://s3.amazonaws.com/theoatmeal-img/comics/email/4.png -- Paul Belanger Digium, Inc. | Software Developer twitter: pabelanger | IRC: pabelanger (Freenode) Check us out at: http://digium.com & http://asterisk.org -- _____________________________________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
"I also agree this is a pointless discussion because, clearly, nobody is willing to budge, and it has nothing to do with Asterisk." Amen :) [oh no, a bottom post] If you have received this communication in error we would appreciate you advising us either by telephone or return of e-mail. The contents of this message, and any attachments, are the property of DataVox, and are intended for the confidential use of the named recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient, take note that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be subject to civil or criminal action for which you may be liable. Every effort has been made to ensure that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses. While the company has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise this risk, neither company, nor the sender can accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of viruses. It is recommended that you should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachments. Registered in England. No. 27459085.
-----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Thomas Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2011 10:01 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting "I also agree this is a pointless discussion because, clearly, nobody is willing to budge, and it has nothing to do with Asterisk." Amen :) It may yet have a point - another few hundred (thousand) of these and the board will blacklist items with the words "top post" and "bottom post" :)
"I also agree this is a pointless discussion because, clearly, nobody is willing to budge, and it has nothing to do with Asterisk." Amen :) It may yet have a point - another few hundred (thousand) of these and the board will blacklist items with the words "top post" and "bottom post" :) And maybe "If you have received this communication in error..." :)
SEE THE BOTTOM :P -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Tzafrir Cohen Sent: 18 January 2011 16:18 To: asterisk-users at lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 03:18:49PM -0000, Andrew Thomas wrote:> Why do I top post? Simple. I read every message in the thread - and > if there are 10 messages (for example) in that thread - then why > should I have to read them all over again on the last one?You mean: why should I have to read 10 messages worth of lines just to figure what you're talking about? It is interesting to note that your mailer (MS-Outlook) has very bad support for threading. In fact, it (combined with the MS-Exchange server) does not really bother reproducing the mail headers that are required to keep the proper threading. Which is why you get a big pile of messages and have to resort to keeping everything in the message itself.> > Top posting is here - to stay!Top posted content has just been cut off :-)> not replying to inane posts like mine :PSo, you really want this thread to go on forever? -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir -- _____________________________________________________________________ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com -- New to Asterisk? Join us for a live introductory webinar every Thurs: http://www.asterisk.org/hello asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users "You mean: why should I have to read 10 messages worth of lines just to figure what you're talking about?" Nope! I mean: why should I have to read the SAME 10 messages worth of lines over and over... "It is interesting to note that your mailer (MS-Outlook) has very bad support for threading. In fact, it (combined with the MS-Exchange server) does not really bother reproducing the mail headers that are required to keep the proper threading." Oh dear God! You mean I'm using a Micro$oft product(s)? I'll go shoot myself now! Well, after I've shot every other M$ user! "Top posted content has just been cut off :-)" I chuckled :-) "So, you really want this thread to go on forever?" Yeah! I'm having bit of a slow CBA day at work... Watch out - here comes that damned disclaimer again: If you have received this communication in error we would appreciate you advising us either by telephone or return of e-mail. The contents of this message, and any attachments, are the property of DataVox, and are intended for the confidential use of the named recipient only. If you are not the intended recipient, employee or agent responsible for delivery of this message to the intended recipient, take note that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication and its attachments is strictly prohibited, and may be subject to civil or criminal action for which you may be liable. Every effort has been made to ensure that this e-mail or any attachments are free from viruses. While the company has taken every reasonable precaution to minimise this risk, neither company, nor the sender can accept liability for any damage which you sustain as a result of viruses. It is recommended that you should carry out your own virus checks before opening any attachments. Registered in England. No. 27459085.
Paul Belanger wrote:> Moderation would be another option (personally opinion). Regardless, > we should all now be aware of the rules [1] of the mailing lists. > All we can do now is hope people respect them. > > [1] http://www.asterisk.org/community/rules > > -- > Paul Belanger > Digium, Inc. | Software DeveloperWith that type of trimming and my own trimming, bottom posting works for me, as well as top posting. There is little difference. But with 5 screens of text, , 7-10 repeated messages multiple signature lines and other tripe, bottom posting is a PITA. So if others trim, I am happy to bottom post. Cary Fitch
On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 08:35:09PM -0600, Cary Fitch wrote:> But with 5 screens of text, , 7-10 repeated messages multiple signature > lines and other tripe, bottom posting is a PITA.Reminder to mutt users: try t-prot. to protect yourself from the PITA caused by the TOFU. -- Tzafrir Cohen icq#16849755 jabber:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com +972-50-7952406 mailto:tzafrir.cohen at xorcom.com http://www.xorcom.com iax:guest at local.xorcom.com/tzafrir
-----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces at lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Mark Deneen Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 1:43 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Top Posting On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 2:37 PM, randulo <randulo at randulo.com> wrote:> > Slightly OT: why is the Gmail ad server, which is usually all about > PBX, Asterisk, etc, now showing me Justin Beiber concert tickets on > this thread? Are they seeing it as that childish? > > /rAlso OT: Google combines message context with your personal search history to do ad targeting, so look in the mirror. I just made that up, though. -M Not your mirror - your cookies!