Dean Collins
2007-Jun-28 14:43 UTC
[asterisk-users] Caller ID Spoofing to be banned in the USA
Anyone running caller id spoofing applications in the USA running asterisk? Then it's time to move them to Canada or similar. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070627-caller-id-spoofing-about-t o-be-outlawed.html Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd dean at cognation.net <mailto:dean at cognation.net> +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070628/1ff5e219/attachment.htm
J. Oquendo
2007-Jun-28 16:42 UTC
[asterisk-users] Caller ID Spoofing to be banned in the USA
Dean Collins wrote:> > Anyone running caller id spoofing applications in the USA running > asterisk? > > Then it?s time to move them to Canada or similar. > > http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070627-caller-id-spoofing-about-to-be-outlawed.html > >Why it means nothing... You're a carrier doing VoIP... Say a managed carrier. You re-sell trunks. One of those trunks maintains their own PBX. PBX admin decides to spoof out and is using a proxy say in India. Hell make it Tor for that matter. What's to prosecute? Prove it happened from where you say it did - remember the burden is on the prosecution. Now as the carrier (me) first thing I'm going to do is track down which trunk it came from... Then go to that client... So what happens if say the client was legitimately "owned" and had various "proxied" addresses committing toll fraud. Analogy... Gun dealer sells a .45 to an authorized gun buyer. Gun owner leaves his gun at home. Someone breaks into his home, cracks his gun safe, uses his gun for a crime, re-enters and places the gun back in the safe. Now its known it wasn't the gun owner because he was witnessed by the court system and recorded say at jury duty... What do you do, prosecute him? For what? Negligence? It would be humorous to see how this plays out. To me its more or less "voting time let's sign pretend laws for brownie points" -- ===================================================J. Oquendo http://pgp.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=get&search=0x1383A743 echo infiltrated.net|sed 's/^/sil@/g' "Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something." -- Plato -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5157 bytes Desc: S/MIME Cryptographic Signature Url : http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070628/5667dc7b/attachment.bin
Anyone know if this is only to "bother some one" ? I have a client that has a consulting business. The clients call in and his asterisk server call's his cell when he is out of the office. It passes along the CID. I hope the laws don't screw this up for those that change CID on every call for legitimate reasons. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dean Collins To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Sent: Thursday, June 28, 2007 5:43 PM Subject: [asterisk-users] Caller ID Spoofing to be banned in the USA Anyone running caller id spoofing applications in the USA running asterisk? Then it's time to move them to Canada or similar. http://arstechnica.com/news.ars/post/20070627-caller-id-spoofing-about-to-be-outlawed.html Regards, Dean Collins Cognation Pty Ltd dean at cognation.net +1-212-203-4357 Ph +61-2-9016-5642 (Sydney in-dial). ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com-- asterisk-users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20070702/981298b8/attachment.htm