Brian Vincent (C)
2006-Jul-27 14:39 UTC
[asterisk-users] long distance ethernet & Asterisk
Two questions: 1. We need to run Ethernet out to a really long distance - 20,000ft. We have the ability to put a powered repeater in at about 12,000'. We can run it using up to 4 pairs. Any recommendations on products that will reach that far? We're looking for 5 - 10Mbps. 2. The products we're likely looking at might be something like g.SHDSL, although I'm fine with a completely proprietary solution. Any idea if it would add too much latency to run a SIP phone? TIA ------------------- Brian Vincent Copper Mountain Telecom vincentb@coppercolorado.com ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of this message and any attachments is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message and any attachments from your system. Thank you. ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060727/ca016174/attachment.htm
Check out "ethernet extenders" http://www.rad-direct.com/App-Ethernet-extender-copper.htm On Thu, 2006-07-27 at 15:39 -0600, Brian Vincent (C) wrote:> Two questions: > > > > 1. We need to run Ethernet out to a really long distance ? > 20,000ft. We have the ability to put a powered repeater in at > about 12,000?. We can run it using up to 4 pairs. Any > recommendations on products that will reach that far? We?re > looking for 5 ? 10Mbps. > 2. The products we?re likely looking at might be something like > g.SHDSL, although I?m fine with a completely proprietary > solution. Any idea if it would add too much latency to run a > SIP phone? > > > > TIA > > ------------------- > Brian Vincent > Copper Mountain Telecom > vincentb@coppercolorado.com > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), > are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, > retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of this message and any attachments is strictly > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this > message and any attachments from your system. Thank you. > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Fiber? Otherwise maybe look at cisco LRE (Long reach ethernet), but I think the limit for LRE is 5000ft (beats the heck out of regular ethernets 300ft). Last I looked LRE was very expensive. On 7/27/06, Brian Vincent (C) <VincentB@coppercolorado.com> wrote:> > Two questions: > > > > 1. We need to run Ethernet out to a really long distance ? > 20,000ft. We have the ability to put a powered repeater in at about > 12,000'. We can run it using up to 4 pairs. Any recommendations on > products that will reach that far? We're looking for 5 ? 10Mbps. > 2. The products we're likely looking at might be something like > g.SHDSL, although I'm fine with a completely proprietary solution. > Any idea if it would add too much latency to run a SIP phone? > > > > TIA > > ------------------- > Brian Vincent > Copper Mountain Telecom > vincentb@coppercolorado.com > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended only for the use of the intended recipient(s), > > are confidential, and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any review, > > retransmission, conversion to hard copy, copying, circulation or other use of this message and any attachments is strictly > > prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this > message and any attachments from your system. Thank you. > > ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com <http://easynews.com/>-- > > asterisk-users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users > > >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060727/a8657a66/attachment.htm
Light the fiber to get to that 2000ft mark, then use directional antennas to cover the last 2000 ft via wireless. If necessary, you could even use unlicensed 900 mhz gear that runs 802.11g speeds (search for the Ubiquiti SR9), http://www.wlanparts.com/c=*/product/SR9 has it for $149 when in stock. Your best bet may be to try wireless the whole way and then try using the fiber if wireless isn't going to cut it. If you end up needing repeater stations, remember to factor in solar panel and battery costs sufficient to last the maximum number of sunless or minimal sun days. On Jul 27 2006, Manrique Feoli wrote:>another thought, if you are in a bowl, all you need to find is line of >sight to one common place from both ends, and place a repeater there. >(you could also set two or three steps repeating the signal within >points which have line of sight). I'm not sure but I think one repeater >would be much cheaper than 20.000ft of copper + extenders + poles+ >maintenance, lighning... (even thought you are in Copper Mountain !!, >BTW nice spot ). > >if in the end you decide to go with ethernet, just beware of lighning!!! > >Brian Vincent (C) escribi?: >> >> I know.. I knowfiber would be ideal. We have single-mode all over>> the place. We even have some dark, unterminated strands within 2000ft >> of this location ? it makes me want to cry. Unfortunately lighting it >> up isn?t an option ? we wouldn?t gain anything because we couldn?t >> connect to anything else to get us the last stretch. Trenching 2000ft >> isn?t an option ? this is National Forest land and we?re not allowed >> to do that. >> >> As far as wireless ? no line of sight. This location sits in a little >> bowl at 11,200?. >> >> So what I?m left with is a 400pr, 22awg out to 3000?. Then we jump on >> 200pr, 24awg aerial cable strung on the 3^rd longest high-speed quad >> chairlift (10,800? run). The last leg involves a short underground to >> another high-speed quad and down 6000?. We can stick a powered >> repeater in the motor room of the first lift (so I guess a bit further >> than the original 12,000? I was thinking.) >> >> Yes, we do strange things. >> >> If you?re really curious, here?s a map of the campus environment we >> maintain: >> >> http://www.skireport.com/colorado/copper/trailmap/ >> >> ------------------- >> Brian Vincent >> Copper Mountain Telecom >> vincentb@coppercolorado.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> *From:* asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com >> [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] *On Behalf Of *Bruce >> Reeves >> *Sent:* Thursday, July 27, 2006 4:03 PM >> *To:* manrique.feoli@kinetos.com; Asterisk Users Mailing List - >> Non-Commercial Discussion >> *Subject:* Re: [asterisk-users] long distance ethernet & Asterisk >> >> I would really look towards fiber, the bandwidth and distance can >> easily be handled. >> >> On 7/27/06, *Manrique Feoli* < manrique.feoli@kinetos.com >> <mailto:manrique.feoli@kinetos.com>> wrote: >> >> If you have line of sight between the points, maybe you could setup a >> wireless link point to point, I know some people who have done it over >> 3 to 5 miles range, they get 10 Mbps, (but don?t know if you could get >> more). >> just a thought >> >> >> Joe Pukepail escribi?: >> >> Fiber? Otherwise maybe look at cisco LRE (Long reach ethernet), but I >> think the limit for LRE is 5000ft (beats the heck out of regular >> ethernets 300ft). Last I looked LRE was very expensive. >> >> On 7/27/06, *Brian Vincent (C)* < VincentB@coppercolorado.com >> <mailto:VincentB@coppercolorado.com>> wrote: >> >> Two questions: >> >> 1. We need to run Ethernet out to a really long distance ? 20,000ft. >> We have the ability to put a powered repeater in at about 12,000'. We >> can run it using up to 4 pairs. Any recommendations on products that >> will reach that far? We're looking for 5 ? 10Mbps. >> >> 2. The products we're likely looking at might be something like >> g.SHDSL, although I'm fine with a completely proprietary solution. Any >> idea if it would add too much latency to run a SIP phone? >> >> TIA >> >> ------------------- >> Brian Vincent >> Copper Mountain Telecom >> vincentb@coppercolorado.com <mailto:vincentb@coppercolorado.com> >> >> >> >> >> ______________________________________________________________________________________________________________ >> >> Confidentiality Warning: This message and any attachments are intended >> only for the use of the intended recipient(s), are confidential, and may >> be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby >> notified that any review, retransmission, conversion to hard copy, >> copying, circulation or other use of this message and any attachments is >> strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please >> notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message >> and any attachments from your system. 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