Hi, does anyone know the prices for g729 codecs from Digium? I sent an email a while ago to them but haven't got any response so far. Prices are per unit or volume? Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------- Erick Perez Linux User 376588 http://counter.li.org/ (Get counted!!!) Panama, Republic of Panama
Hi, You can purchase the G.729 codec here: http://www.digium.com/en/wheretobuy/digiumdirect/productview.php?product_code=G729CODEC The price is $10 / codec You'll receive the installation procedure by mail, Regards, Fr?d?ric Marti Telecom Engineer _______________________________________________ E-Secure S?rl Geneva E-Secure S?rl Basel 20, Rte de Pr?-Bois 22, Gartenstrasse 1215 Gen?ve 15 4052 Basel T?l : +41 (22) 799 42 42 T?l : +41 (61) 206 42 42 Fax : +41 (22) 799 42 41 Fax : +41 (61) 206 42 41 _______________________________________________ -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: vendredi, 2. juin 2006 17:00 To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec Hi, does anyone know the prices for g729 codecs from Digium? I sent an email a while ago to them but haven't got any response so far. Prices are per unit or volume? Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------- Erick Perez Linux User 376588 http://counter.li.org/ (Get counted!!!) Panama, Republic of Panama _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
10$/channel -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec Hi, does anyone know the prices for g729 codecs from Digium? I sent an email a while ago to them but haven't got any response so far. Prices are per unit or volume? Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------- Erick Perez Linux User 376588 http://counter.li.org/ (Get counted!!!) Panama, Republic of Panama _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
You can also build G729 codec by urself via Intel IPP. Regards -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec Hi, does anyone know the prices for g729 codecs from Digium? I sent an email a while ago to them but haven't got any response so far. Prices are per unit or volume? Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------- Erick Perez Linux User 376588 http://counter.li.org/ (Get counted!!!) Panama, Republic of Panama _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
You can also build G729 codec by urself via Intel IPP. Regards ====================================================== Do you know if they are compatible with Digium's codecs? Like this exemple: 2 Asterisk linked via IAX2 , 1 with Intel's codec and 1 with Digium's codec. Regards Fred ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec Hi, does anyone know the prices for g729 codecs from Digium? I sent an email a while ago to them but haven't got any response so far. Prices are per unit or volume? Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------- Erick Perez Linux User 376588 http://counter.li.org/ (Get counted!!!) Panama, Republic of Panama _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
Now why would you want to go and not support Digium and the community for their hard work to produce a quality product? $10 isnt that much for using the licenses.. If you take into consideration of how much it COULD cost to purchase something like this based on circuits it would be insane. Don't cheat digium out of money.. pay the $10 per license. -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Fr?d?ric Marti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:25 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec You can also build G729 codec by urself via Intel IPP. Regards ====================================================== Do you know if they are compatible with Digium's codecs? Like this exemple: 2 Asterisk linked via IAX2 , 1 with Intel's codec and 1 with Digium's codec. Regards Fred ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec Hi, does anyone know the prices for g729 codecs from Digium? I sent an email a while ago to them but haven't got any response so far. Prices are per unit or volume? Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------- Erick Perez Linux User 376588 http://counter.li.org/ (Get counted!!!) Panama, Republic of Panama _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This email was scanned by: Mcafee GroupShield ---------------- CONFIDENTIAL DISCLAMER ---------------- All information provided in this email is considered confidential and proprietary of Planet Telecom, Inc. and Telecenter Inc. Use of this information by anyone other than the recipient or sender will be considered in breach of agreement.
Now why would you want to go and not support Digium and the community for their hard work to produce a quality product? $10 isnt that much for using the licenses.. If you take into consideration of how much it COULD cost to purchase something like this based on circuits it would be insane. Don't cheat digium out of money.. pay the $10 per license. ========== It was just a question :-) Just to die less stupide.... All my codecs are from Digium, Fred -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Fr?d?ric Marti Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 11:25 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec You can also build G729 codec by urself via Intel IPP. Regards ====================================================== Do you know if they are compatible with Digium's codecs? Like this exemple: 2 Asterisk linked via IAX2 , 1 with Intel's codec and 1 with Digium's codec. Regards Fred ====================================================== -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Erick Perez Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 8:00 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec Hi, does anyone know the prices for g729 codecs from Digium? I sent an email a while ago to them but haven't got any response so far. Prices are per unit or volume? Thanks, -- ------------------------------------------- Erick Perez Linux User 376588 http://counter.li.org/ (Get counted!!!) Panama, Republic of Panama _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This email was scanned by: Mcafee GroupShield ---------------- CONFIDENTIAL DISCLAMER ---------------- All information provided in this email is considered confidential and proprietary of Planet Telecom, Inc. and Telecenter Inc. Use of this information by anyone other than the recipient or sender will be considered in breach of agreement. _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
eh? I try.. -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Kohlsmith Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 12:13 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec On Friday 02 June 2006 11:39, Lee Howard wrote:> >Don't cheat digium out of money.. pay the $10 per license. > Yes, be a good colonist and don't dump any more tea into the harbor.Oh please. Brian's got the reasoning for paying for the license entirely wrong but at least his heart's in the right place. The Intel g729 code is licensed for educational use ONLY. Commercial use is forbidden without paying the patent holder. $10 a port won't break the bank of any business with a shred of a hope of a chance of surviving, and you stay legitimate. Try buying a legit g729 license from the patent holder if you're a home user or small business wanting to transcode g729. They only want to license hundreds of instances at a time, if not thousands. Digium negotiated a pretty damn good license fee so that they could offer the codec and sell it in onesie-twosie quantities to little guys like us at an affordable price. It's $10 per simultaneous transcode, Lee. It's not per month or even per-year. It's a one time fee. If you're a major carrier, chances are you aren't transcoding g729 on too many channels on PCs anyway, instead relying on the already-paid-for, already-legit g729 codecs on your termination equipment (Cisco, Lucent, etc.). In that case, spending $100 or even $1000 on g729 licenses (scaled for your needs of course) is a paltry sum compared to the equipment you have in place already to run the rest of the VOIP end of the business. "be a good colonist" indeed. You've got your head so far up your arse you've entered a new and entirely intestinally-based existence. -A. _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This email was scanned by: Mcafee GroupShield ---------------- CONFIDENTIAL DISCLAMER ---------------- All information provided in this email is considered confidential and proprietary of Planet Telecom, Inc. and Telecenter Inc. Use of this information by anyone other than the recipient or sender will be considered in breach of agreement.
I don't see a problem with monetary reward for hard work. If it wasn't for Mark, the Digium Team, and the community of developers you wouldn't have what you have. I am thankful for open source projects and support in anyway I can.. Money or otherwise. So say I'm brainwashed or employed either way.. I support and stand behind Digium 100% brian -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-bounces@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Lee Howard Sent: Friday, June 02, 2006 1:00 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec On Friday 02 June 2006 11:39, Lee Howard wrote:>>>Don't cheat digium out of money.. pay the $10 per license. >>> >>> >>Yes, be a good colonist and don't dump any more tea into the harbor. >> >> > >Oh please. Brian's got the reasoning for paying for the license >entirely >wrong but at least his heart's in the right place. > >It's $10 per simultaneous transcode, Lee. It's not per month or even >per-year. It's a one time fee. > >"be a good colonist" indeed. You've got your head so far up your arse >you've >entered a new and entirely intestinally-based existence. >I'm not advocating illegal activity. I am, however, mocking the the zealousness behind the "reasoning", as you put it. The GPL very clearly defines the method of expressing deserved gratitude, and it is not in monetary support. Those who would like to extend the requisite gratitude further have motives, are brainwashed, or are employed by Digium. Lee. _______________________________________________ --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- Asterisk-Users mailing list To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users This email was scanned by: Mcafee GroupShield ---------------- CONFIDENTIAL DISCLAMER ---------------- All information provided in this email is considered confidential and proprietary of Planet Telecom, Inc. and Telecenter Inc. Use of this information by anyone other than the recipient or sender will be considered in breach of agreement.
----- Chris Mason (Lists) <lists@masonc.com> wrote:> licenses on them, usually $100 each time, and when I install the real > > hardware for the client, I can't transfer the licenses. If I scrap > thatOur support department is very accomodating when it comes to handling licensing issues like this; I'm surprised to hear that you "can't transfer the licenses" as we do that exact thing all the time. If you have a specific support ticket number where you requested this and it was declined, please email it to me off-list. -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc.
----- Sahil Gupta <sgupta@voicevalley.com.au> wrote:> We recently had around 60-80 licenses become useless because Digium > refused to renew the keys on that. That was a bit of money kissed > goodbye.Unless you had been clearly abusing the key licensing system, our support department will never refuse to enable a new registration on your license key(s). There is no 'renew the keys', though, since they don't expire. -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc.
Hi Calvis, Its good if I can help you in any why with this project. thanks ../Arun On 6/2/06, calvis <calvis@itechgroup.com> wrote:> > > Has anyone done any integration with Asterisk & Microsoft Dynamics CRM? I > just wanted to check with the list before I pursue a project with the > above > integration. In addition, if anyone would be interested in such an > integration let me know, and I will keep you posted on the results. > > > Thanks, > > > Charles Alvis > Internet Technology Group, Inc. > Redmond,WA > > > > _______________________________________________ > --Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com -- > > Asterisk-Users mailing list > To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: > http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users >-------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060605/61c51ad8/attachment.htm
On 6/3/06, Kevin P. Fleming <kpfleming@digium.com> wrote:> > ----- Sahil Gupta <sgupta@voicevalley.com.au> wrote: >> We recently had around 60-80 licenses become useless because Digium >> refused to renew the keys on that. That was a bit of money kissed >> goodbye. > > Unless you had been clearly abusing the key licensing system, our > support department will never refuse to enable a new registration on > your license key(s). There is no 'renew the keys', though, since they > don't expire.I hope that's the actual official policy now. There seems to have been some internal conflict or communications failure at Digium a few months ago as to whether or how many times a g729 license key can be reset. As a service provider (you could call us an Asterisk ASP), we regularly build & host systems for customers, retire/upgrade systems, swap out hardware, add interfaces, etc. which causes problems with the g729 licensing. In one attempt a few months ago to get a license reset, I was initially told it was now policy that Digium would only reset the registration count once, and after that, you were SOL (or forced to play MAC address changing games or as someone else posted, try hacking around the license key code). In that particular case, the customer's server had suffered a 2 disk RAID failure, and to get them back online, I moved them to a lower end system (what was readily available) while we waited for parts to get their dual xeon server back online. Both motherboards had built-in dual ethernets. IMO, locking the licensing to a piece of system thats often built-in, has been very annoying. I think I'd be happier if it was locked to some sort of dongle (parallel, or more likely today, USB). At least that way, we could easily move the key anytime we needed to. It would be a bit of a pain any time a system needed to quickly be transfered to hardware already at another location. The TRX idea sounds appealing, but I wonder how they'll handle servers that don't have internet access. Not all VOIP servers are on the internet. I've actually wondered if we could legally use Intel's code in cases where we have licenses bought from Digium, but they're not re-registerable because Digium wouldn't reset the use count. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Jon Lewis | I route Senior Network Engineer | therefore you are Atlantic Net | _________ http://www.lewis.org/~jlewis/pgp for PGP public key_________
----- Jon Lewis <jlewis@lewis.org> wrote:> IMO, locking the licensing to a piece of system thats often built-in, > has > been very annoying. I think I'd be happier if it was locked to some > sort > of dongle (parallel, or more likely today, USB). At least that way, > we > could easily move the key anytime we needed to. It would be a bit of > a > pain any time a system needed to quickly be transfered to hardware > already > at another location.I have proposed that a number of times internally, only to be told (vehemently) that customers would never go for it. That includes responses from our distributors and channel partners, among others. It would also dramatically increase the cost for people buying one or two licenses, so it would have be an 'alternate' registration means if it existed. -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc.
On Mon, 2006-06-05 at 13:47 -0400, Matt Florell wrote:> What are the reasons that people/companies/manufacturers use G729 > instead of comperable codecs like GSM or Speex? > > Microsoft and Apple both support GSM in their software, and Speex is > the same compression ratio as G729 yet is BSD-like licensed so no cost > whatsoever.speex isnt in all ATAs and other things. So if its not there it offers worse compression since the call wont go through :P -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461 DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com we pay you to terminate calls with us! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060605/badc2c40/attachment.pgp
----- trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter@0xdecafbad.com> wrote:> speex isnt in all ATAs and other things. So if its not there it > offers > worse compression since the call wont go through :PAnd it's not there because it is significantly more computationally intensive than G.729 (I don't believe there is a fixed-point Speex implementation either, although I could be wrong) so that means the hardware cost for the ATA/phone/etc. goes up. -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc.
----- Benny Amorsen <benny+usenet@amorsen.dk> wrote:> (By the way, why is there no In-Reply-To: header in your messages?)We just switched to a new email client here... still working out bugs with it. -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc.
On Tue, 2006-06-06 at 08:41 +0800, Steve Underwood wrote:> Cory Andrews wrote: > > >Voiceage in Montreal is supposed to be working on an open source G.729A > >codec, although it mentions only that they allow developers to freely use > >their G.729(A) codec object code for non-commercial purposes. > > > >Lots of good codec related info here > >http://datacompression.info/Speech.shtml > > > > > Voiceage have for several years had something called Open G.729. This is > like the use of the term Open Systems in the early 90s - a term designed > to distract attention fom the reality of it being totally closed. There > is no source, and the last time I looked it would only run on Windows. > It may only be used for experimental purposes, and is pretty much as > open as a welded shut box.http://www.vovida.org/applications/downloads/G729A/ that links to voiceage.com http://www.voiceage.com/freecodecs.php there is a download button there for their open g729(A) which when clicked gives you pdf file, c files and a .lib and exe files. They give you a library but no code for that and their .c files call that library. -- Trixter http://www.0xdecafbad.com Bret McDanel Belfast IE +44 28 9099 6461 DE +49 801 777 555 3402 Utrecht NL +31 306 553058 US WA +1 360 207 0479 US NY +1 516 687 5200 FreeWorldDialup: 635378 http://www.trxtel.com we pay you to terminate calls with us! -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: not available Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 189 bytes Desc: This is a digitally signed message part Url : http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20060605/d206da5f/attachment.pgp
----- Steve Underwood <steveu@coppice.org> wrote:> Asterisk should really import a recent version of Speex. The last time > I > checked it had an ancient version. Quality has improved, and > computation > has significantly reduced.As far as I know, Asterisk has never included the Speex library in its source package, it has always used the one present on the system at build time. GSM and iLBC yes, Speex no (although the SVN trunk version now prefers the system's GSM library if one is present). -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc.
<div>For all the noise about this noone has mentioned one important thing. We should be gratefull that we have access to G.729a in Asterisk, whatever the mechanics of the licensing. It's obvious that its a pain in the a@# for Digium who absolutely not making ANY on it money for their efforts. It would be really easy for them to say "no more" and it wouldn't really impact their business at all, except to reduce their headaches.</div> <div> </div> <div>This will be especially true when they introduce their new hardware based transcoding engine. Why then should they continue to deal with the per stream softwaer codec licensing? If you want access to G.729a just buy the board...the license cost withn be buried in the price and they can afford to provide support to paying customers.</div> <div> </div> <div>Again, we should be gratefull! It could very easily go away altogether.</div> <div> </div> <div>Those of you constantly complaining...this is supposed to be a open source community...don't just demand a better licensing scheme...design and implement one. That can be your contibution to the project. I'm not a code jockey or I'd have a go myself.</div> <div> </div> <div>In the interest of full disclosure, I have a small systems based upon Astlinux and a Soekris Net4801. I have 2 G.729a licenses on that box and I'd like to see Digium make the codec possible using the alternative C libraries that Kristian has used in Astlinux 0.4. I probably can't justify buying the hardware transcoder. And I definitely don't want them to withdraw the current codec offering.<BR><BR>Michael Graves<BR>Sr Product Specialist<BR>Pixel Power Inc<BR><A href="mailto:mgraves@pixelpower.com">mgraves@pixelpower.com</A><BR>o(713) 861-4005<BR>o(800) 905-6412<BR>f(713) 864-8668<BR>c(713) 201-1262<BR><BR></div> <DIV id=wmMessageComp name="wmMessageComp"><BR><BR> <BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 8px; MARGIN-LEFT: 8px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid">-------- Original Message --------<BR>Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Prices of g729 codec<BR>From: "Woodoo People .pGa!" <wpeople@Shadow.microsystem.hu><BR>Date: Mon, June 05, 2006 10:15 am<BR>To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion<BR><asterisk-users@lists.digium.com><BR><BR>> Talk to digium about this on support@digium.com, they might be able to <BR>> help you out there.<BR>> <BR>> Zoa<BR>> <BR>> Chris Mason (Lists) wrote:<BR>> <BR>> >I have no problem with paying Digium the $10 for G729 licenses, <BR>> >everyone has to make money. It's the administration of the licenses <BR>> >that sucks. I experiment with different hardware a lot, and make up <BR>> >demo machines to install for customers with available hardware. I have <BR>> >to put G729 licenses on them, usually $100 each time, and when I <BR>> >install the real hardware for the client, I can't transfer the <BR>> >licenses. If I scrap that machine or change the interfaces, that's a <BR>> >$100 loss. I believe when you buy a number of licenses, that should <BR>> >determine how many instances you can use, regardless of how you want <BR>> >to deploy them.<BR>> >In short, the method of enforcement is poor and leads to resentment <BR>> >from customers. Surely Digium can construct a better system?<BR><BR>i think, for those of us, who would like to transfer licences from one box<BR>to other (i mean more than 1-2 or 10), we would have to buy a hardware<BR>base lock (of course, i don't care about, if the lock would contact<BR>digium once a day or so) like usb, or a dumb pci ethernet card, so<BR>if we need we can move it to other. what do you think?<BR>(sadly there is no a 7day demo licence or anything to test) <BR>-- <BR>WoodOO-[P]an[G]alaktikan[A]gent-People <][> http://shadow.pganet.com<BR>wpeople@shadow.pganet.com]iCQ#33118021[wpeople.on.iRCNet]wpeople@RedHat.users<BR>_______________________________________________<BR>--Bandwidth and Colocation provided by Easynews.com --<BR><BR>Asterisk-Users mailing list<BR>To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit:<BR> http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users </BLOCKQUOTE></DIV>
----- trixter aka Bret McDanel <trixter@0xdecafbad.com> wrote:> but they do in 2004 mark said it was one of their biggest revenue > streams. Or do you mean that they dont make any money selling > asteriskPlease post a link (or something) to this quote; selling G.729 licenses has never been a significant revenue stream for Digium, and certainly not the 'biggest'. -- Kevin P. Fleming Senior Software Engineer Digium, Inc.