asterisk users - Jan 2006 - How's the best way to set up agents...

So I'm trying to set up queues and agents and am trying to figure out the
best way to set up what I need to do.  And what I need to do is basically
get Asterisk to mimic my company's current phone system.  As close as
possible of course.  And my main problem is queues and agents.  Currently,
for our queues and agents, a person is assigned a hot-desk extension, which
they use to login to any phone and then they can send and receive calls at
that extension.  There is no seperate extension and agent id--they are
pretty much the same thing.  But the extension moves around with them to
wherever they log in.  The advantage is that they always have the same
extension.  When no one is logged into a phone, the phone is assigned a
catch all username called "no user" which has limited dialing
capabilities.
With Asterisk, when you log in an agent, they assume the extension of the
phone that they have just logged in under.  Yes, if they are a member of a
queue, they will always receive calls from that queue regardless of what
extension they are at, but for DID and internal calls, you would never know
which extension to dial to reach a person setup in such a way.
 
So here's what I've come up with (but I, of course, still have
questions...):  Match the agent ID to an extension.  Assign an agent their
ID and then assign a certain working area, and a assign certain phone to
that working area and assign that phone an extension that is the same as
their agent id.  The pitfall here is that if you do it this way, only one
person could utilize that working area and that phone.  Agents working in
shifts at the same work area and same phone would not work--unless multiple
agents used the same extension, which again kills your DID and internal
calling.  Of course, you could assign the extension the phone based on time,
but what if you want to have open seating and you want any agent to sit in
any work area at any given time?  You can see it starts to get messy when
you try to work it out this way.  Also, if you did do the matched extension
and agent id, if a person was re-assigned to a new work area, they either
have to take their phone with them, or you get to setup a new phone with
their extension.  Perhaps there is something in Asterisk that I don't know
about that could benefit me here?
 
I'm thinking another way to do something like what I need is via XML, but
I'm not exactly sure how to do it this way.  Can you assign a phone a
certain extension and then give it an option for "logging in" using
their
agent id and then based on their agent id, push a new XML file out that
assigns their specific extension.  Can you re-assign a new extension to a
phone this way?  I believe this would be a decent way to set this up (if the
XML files aren't too complicated) but I'm not exactly sure how to do it.
 
Any suggestions, pointers, directions...?
 
Thanks!
Ben Ferguson
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Base your internal dialplan around Dial(Agent/xxx) rather than DIAL(SIP/xxx) for
calling extensions.

later,

PaulH
> Ben Ferguson <ben@circlepix.com> wrote:
> 
> So I'm trying to set up queues and agents and am trying to figure out 
> the
> best way to set up what I need to do.  And what I need to do is 
> basically
> get Asterisk to mimic my company's current phone system.  As close as
> possible of course.  And my main problem is queues and agents.  
> Currently,
> for our queues and agents, a person is assigned a hot-desk extension, 
> which
> they use to login to any phone and then they can send and receive calls 
> at
> that extension.  There is no seperate extension and agent id--they are
> pretty much the same thing.  But the extension moves around with them to
> wherever they log in.  The advantage is that they always have the same
> extension.  When no one is logged into a phone, the phone is assigned a
> catch all username called "no user" which has limited dialing 
> capabilities.
> With Asterisk, when you log in an agent, they assume the extension of 
> the
> phone that they have just logged in under.  Yes, if they are a member of 
> a
> queue, they will always receive calls from that queue regardless of what
> extension they are at, but for DID and internal calls, you would never 
> know
> which extension to dial to reach a person setup in such a way.
>  
> So here's what I've come up with (but I, of course, still have
> questions...):  Match the agent ID to an extension.  Assign an agent 
> their
> ID and then assign a certain working area, and a assign certain phone to
> that working area and assign that phone an extension that is the same as
> their agent id.  The pitfall here is that if you do it this way, only 
> one
> person could utilize that working area and that phone.  Agents working 
> in
> shifts at the same work area and same phone would not work--unless 
> multiple
> agents used the same extension, which again kills your DID and internal
> calling.  Of course, you could assign the extension the phone based on 
> time,
> but what if you want to have open seating and you want any agent to sit 
> in
> any work area at any given time?  You can see it starts to get messy 
> when
> you try to work it out this way.  Also, if you did do the matched 
> extension
> and agent id, if a person was re-assigned to a new work area, they 
> either
> have to take their phone with them, or you get to setup a new phone with
> their extension.  Perhaps there is something in Asterisk that I don't 
> know
> about that could benefit me here?
>  
> I'm thinking another way to do something like what I need is via XML, 
> but
> I'm not exactly sure how to do it this way.  Can you assign a phone a
> certain extension and then give it an option for "logging in"
using
> their
> agent id and then based on their agent id, push a new XML file out that
> assigns their specific extension.  Can you re-assign a new extension to 
> a
> phone this way?  I believe this would be a decent way to set this up (if 
> the
> XML files aren't too complicated) but I'm not exactly sure how to
do it.
>  
>  
> Any suggestions, pointers, directions...?
>  
> Thanks!
> Ben Ferguson