Around 1978, when I was consulting to a multinational company in the business of agriculture, I witnessed this configuration in their communications center in NYC: A paper tape punch attached to a teletype machine was busily punching out a tape that was being spewed into a wastebasket. Somehow, running behind it by several feet of tape, was a paper tape reader on another teletype drawing the tape out of the basket, sending the data to who-knows-where. Amazingly, it wasn't getting tangled. To me, this was emblematic of how tradition dies hard... T.30 will be with us for a while to come. Wise managers will limit this to the outer boundaries of their enterprises wherever practical, ASAP. From: Jean-Michel Hiver <jhiver@ykoz.net> Doing a analog (piece of paper) -> digital (scanning process) -> analog (modulation over TDM) -> digital (conversion to TDMoIP) -> analog (demodulating on the other fax) -> digital (reconstructing the image in fax memory) -> analog (printing) conversion doesn't make any kind of sense... It might be great for legacy systems, but it's so not the right way of doing it.