asterisk users - Dec 2004 - Re: 12.50$ per port ???

Shoval,
    Interesting Mention. I agree, most people don't have CO exp. And I 
wish daily I had enough.

Understand that what I mean by my e-mail is consumer side FXS ports, in 
broader terms, I mean, customer picks up a phone line, it signals a 
channel bank which signals *. 24 of those channels.

Not channels equipped to Send Signal to the CO that a loop has been made.. 
meaning FXO.

24 FXS, $100. I don't deal with FXO since I deal w/ PRI.. and do not need 
FXO ports.

My thought here was related to downstream customers.. which in the this 
world implies FXS.

Talk was mentioned for DSPs.. Echo Can and Codec Management, this 
interests me because of the unique hardware requirements of the 4 port 
cards.. mainly in interrupts and CPU usage. Fit 10 cards to one system, 
that's 40 ports.. fit double density, that's 80.. this interests me on
the
cPCI platform. Others know what I think about this and why.


Beyodn that, my point here is 1) Buy a T400P for $800 and 2) Buy 4 Carrier
Access Channel Banks for $100 and 3) You'll have a 96 Downstream Port
solution for $1200, meaning $12.50 a Port NRC.

If you can find a cheaper *OR* easier solution, let me know. Because it'll 
save me money and you'll be my friend. ;)

As for FXO, my best solution was Mainstreet Newbridge 3624s from Ebay for
about $150-$300 a box w/ 12 port FXOs a while back. Then I moved to PRI
for the capability of setting Caller ID easily (e&m was a pain in the..).

wherd

-Matt


-----------------------------------------------------
"I believe there are more instances of the abridgment 
of the  freedom of the  people by  gradual and silent
encroachments of  those in power  than by violent and 
sudden usurpations."  - James Madison



On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Shoval Tomer wrote:
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Klein [mailto:mklein@nmedia.net]
> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:19 AM
> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
> > Cc: markster@lists.digium.com
> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Ethernet Channel Bank idea
> > 
> > Ethernet Channel Bank
> > 
> > Hmm.
> > 
> > Caught my attention for more than 34 hours, you win.
> > 
> > I'm getting 24 port carrier access channel banks for $100, Digium
4
> Port
> > Cards for about $800 (T400P) a card.. Meaning a blended cost of
> ~$12.50
> > per channel NRC. I can mux up 96 channels for a cost of $12.50 per
> channel
> > all day long. And easily sell it at $25 to cover the cost of the box
> per
> > port, T-1 channel per port, and channel bank per port non recurring
> costs.
> > 
> 
> Matt,
> 
> A 24 port channel bank for $100 ???
> Where? 
> If you can get one that's working and has 8 FXO ports and 16 FXS ports,
> and is one of the brands that work well with * (support all or most
> features) for $100, I'll buy it from you for $200.
> 
> Now, as to why we're interested in an Ethernet channel bank, you should
> keep in mind that some of the people on the list have no telco
> experience.
> And that's fine by me (especially since I'm one of them).
> You can manage a Cisco call manager, and other VOIP systems that
> originated from the IP side of the VOIP world without being a telco
> expert.
> 
> VOIP systems that originated from the VO side, like ones from Panasonic,
> LG, etc. are cryptic at best to us non telco guys.
> 
> We don't have the experience and knowledge necessary to setup channel
> banks (it's not like they have 24 RJ45 ports on them, right?)
> 
> An Ethernet channel bank will probably be much easier for us to set up.
> 
> I can understand and respect telco guys, who've setup channel banks for
> TDM PBXs for years not being afraid to try and hook it up with *.
> 
> Me? I'm scared as hell
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Shoval Tomer,
> IT Manager,
> SofTov Advanced Systems, Ltd.
> Office: +972-3-9230686 ext. 179
> Fax: +972-3-9216642
> Mobile: +972-54-8000200
> 
>

Hi,

MK> ... 2) Buy 4 Carrier Access Channel Banks for $100 ...

   From where can I buy Carrier Access Channel Banks for $100? Any URL
or related info?


   Best Regards,
   Miroslav Nachev

MK> Shoval,
MK>     Interesting Mention. I agree, most people don't have CO exp. And
I
MK> wish daily I had enough.

MK> Understand that what I mean by my e-mail is consumer side FXS ports, in
MK> broader terms, I mean, customer picks up a phone line, it signals a
MK> channel bank which signals *. 24 of those channels.

MK> Not channels equipped to Send Signal to the CO that a loop has been
made..
MK> meaning FXO.

MK> 24 FXS, $100. I don't deal with FXO since I deal w/ PRI.. and do not
need
MK> FXO ports.

MK> My thought here was related to downstream customers.. which in the this
MK> world implies FXS.

MK> Talk was mentioned for DSPs.. Echo Can and Codec Management, this 
MK> interests me because of the unique hardware requirements of the 4 port
MK> cards.. mainly in interrupts and CPU usage. Fit 10 cards to one system,
MK> that's 40 ports.. fit double density, that's 80.. this interests
me on the
MK> cPCI platform. Others know what I think about this and why.


MK> Beyodn that, my point here is 1) Buy a T400P for $800 and 2) Buy 4
Carrier
MK> Access Channel Banks for $100 and 3) You'll have a 96 Downstream Port
MK> solution for $1200, meaning $12.50 a Port NRC.

MK> If you can find a cheaper *OR* easier solution, let me know. Because
it'll
MK> save me money and you'll be my friend. ;)

MK> As for FXO, my best solution was Mainstreet Newbridge 3624s from Ebay for
MK> about $150-$300 a box w/ 12 port FXOs a while back. Then I moved to PRI
MK> for the capability of setting Caller ID easily (e&m was a pain in
the..).

MK> wherd

MK> -Matt


MK> -----------------------------------------------------
MK> "I believe there are more instances of the abridgment 
MK> of the  freedom of the  people by  gradual and silent
MK> encroachments of  those in power  than by violent and 
MK> sudden usurpations."  - James Madison



MK> On Wed, 15 Dec 2004, Shoval Tomer wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: Matt Klein [mailto:mklein@nmedia.net]
>> > Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 11:19 AM
>> > To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion
>> > Cc: markster@lists.digium.com
>> > Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Re: Ethernet Channel Bank idea
>> > 
>> > Ethernet Channel Bank
>> > 
>> > Hmm.
>> > 
>> > Caught my attention for more than 34 hours, you win.
>> > 
>> > I'm getting 24 port carrier access channel banks for $100,
Digium 4
>> Port
>> > Cards for about $800 (T400P) a card.. Meaning a blended cost of
>> ~$12.50
>> > per channel NRC. I can mux up 96 channels for a cost of $12.50 per
>> channel
>> > all day long. And easily sell it at $25 to cover the cost of the
box
>> per
>> > port, T-1 channel per port, and channel bank per port non
recurring
>> costs.
>> > 
>> 
>> Matt,
>> 
>> A 24 port channel bank for $100 ???
>> Where? 
>> If you can get one that's working and has 8 FXO ports and 16 FXS
ports,
>> and is one of the brands that work well with * (support all or most
>> features) for $100, I'll buy it from you for $200.
>> 
>> Now, as to why we're interested in an Ethernet channel bank, you
should
>> keep in mind that some of the people on the list have no telco
>> experience.
>> And that's fine by me (especially since I'm one of them).
>> You can manage a Cisco call manager, and other VOIP systems that
>> originated from the IP side of the VOIP world without being a telco
>> expert.
>> 
>> VOIP systems that originated from the VO side, like ones from
Panasonic,
>> LG, etc. are cryptic at best to us non telco guys.
>> 
>> We don't have the experience and knowledge necessary to setup
channel
>> banks (it's not like they have 24 RJ45 ports on them, right?)
>> 
>> An Ethernet channel bank will probably be much easier for us to set up.
>> 
>> I can understand and respect telco guys, who've setup channel banks
for
>> TDM PBXs for years not being afraid to try and hook it up with *.
>> 
>> Me? I'm scared as hell
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Shoval Tomer,
>> IT Manager,
>> SofTov Advanced Systems, Ltd.
>> Office: +972-3-9230686 ext. 179
>> Fax: +972-3-9216642
>> Mobile: +972-54-8000200
>> 
>> 
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