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-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dean Collins wrote: | | | http://www.skype.net/download_pda.html Hmm. I don't have a 400MHz PDA running PocketPC. I only have a 206MHz PDA (running Familiar Linux and GPE). - -- Jason A. Pattie pattieja@xperienceinc.com Xperience, Inc. (http://www.xperienceinc.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAdC3fuYsUrHkpYtARAjn8AJ0dslvk0TWf/RSjN11246XkWOH35QCfcuBR HC2I8QTK3F2zyST3Ayz6G8s=X0GT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support.
I don't have a PocketPC PDA, mine is Palm. But regardless, I don't see what all the "Hype" is with "Skype." It is a closed protocol and highly platform-restricted product. Sure the concept of a peer-to-peer phone network is interesting, but if not everyone can connect to it, what is the point? If they want to keep certain features under their control so that they can eventually charge for it, then by all means do so. But if they would release the basic protocol specs, so that others can access the network in general, they would see many more users. I for one am not going to run yet another soft phone and/or IM client on my system just to connect to yet another phone network. A friend of mine and I tried it when it first came out, and it worked about as well as FWD, or IAXTel, or Firefly, or... You get the point. Now if I could attach my Asterisk server to it and be able to make and receive simple voice calls with other users, that would be great. I don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I get a busy reorder signal. No big deal. They definitely have a good idea, in the fact that it works, doesn't have too many problems with firewalls, and is not server reliant. But keeping it closed is preventing a lot of people from joining them. -----Original Message----- From: Jason A. Pattie [mailto:pattieja@pcxperience.com] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 10:36 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Dean Collins wrote: | | | http://www.skype.net/download_pda.html Hmm. I don't have a 400MHz PDA running PocketPC. I only have a 206MHz PDA (running Familiar Linux and GPE). - -- Jason A. Pattie pattieja@xperienceinc.com Xperience, Inc. (http://www.xperienceinc.com) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Debian - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFAdC3fuYsUrHkpYtARAjn8AJ0dslvk0TWf/RSjN11246XkWOH35QCfcuBR HC2I8QTK3F2zyST3Ayz6G8s=X0GT -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. MailScanner thanks transtec Computers for their support. _______________________________________________ Asterisk-Users mailing list Asterisk-Users@lists.digium.com http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users To UNSUBSCRIBE or update options visit: http://lists.digium.com/mailman/listinfo/asterisk-users
I'm going to leave most of what you said alone, I understand you point and it's your point to make. However I will make a small comment about "I don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I get a busy reorder signal. No big deal". Presence based information is the biggest 'seller' in the IP PBX market at the moment, being able to tell what/where a person is certainly driving a lot of sales through my door. Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hall Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2004 3:29 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype I don't have a PocketPC PDA, mine is Palm. But regardless, I don't see what all the "Hype" is with "Skype." It is a closed protocol and highly platform-restricted product. Sure the concept of a peer-to-peer phone network is interesting, but if not everyone can connect to it, what is the point? If they want to keep certain features under their control so that they can eventually charge for it, then by all means do so. But if they would release the basic protocol specs, so that others can access the network in general, they would see many more users. I for one am not going to run yet another soft phone and/or IM client on my system just to connect to yet another phone network. A friend of mine and I tried it when it first came out, and it worked about as well as FWD, or IAXTel, or Firefly, or... You get the point. Now if I could attach my Asterisk server to it and be able to make and receive simple voice calls with other users, that would be great. I don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I get a busy reorder signal. No big deal. They definitely have a good idea, in the fact that it works, doesn't have too many problems with firewalls, and is not server reliant. But keeping it closed is preventing a lot of people from joining them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040407/0d3a5d0b/attachment.htm
I guess I didn't place that part of my message in the correct context. Presence is very handy, and I would like to see the functionality added to Asterisk. What I meant by my comment you quoted below, is that if I could attach my Asterisk server to the Skype network, I would not care if I had their presence services. That is a part of the functionality I would be willing to do without if they opened their protocol. It goes back to my original point: If they want to keep part of their protocol closed, that is fine, but release the most basic part of it: the voice communication. Jeremy _____ From: Dean Collins [mailto:dean@collins.net.pr] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:42 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype I'm going to leave most of what you said alone, I understand you point and it's your point to make. However I will make a small comment about "I don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I get a busy reorder signal. No big deal". Presence based information is the biggest 'seller' in the IP PBX market at the moment, being able to tell what/where a person is certainly driving a lot of sales through my door. Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hall Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2004 3:29 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype I don't have a PocketPC PDA, mine is Palm. But regardless, I don't see what all the "Hype" is with "Skype." It is a closed protocol and highly platform-restricted product. Sure the concept of a peer-to-peer phone network is interesting, but if not everyone can connect to it, what is the point? If they want to keep certain features under their control so that they can eventually charge for it, then by all means do so. But if they would release the basic protocol specs, so that others can access the network in general, they would see many more users. I for one am not going to run yet another soft phone and/or IM client on my system just to connect to yet another phone network. A friend of mine and I tried it when it first came out, and it worked about as well as FWD, or IAXTel, or Firefly, or... You get the point. Now if I could attach my Asterisk server to it and be able to make and receive simple voice calls with other users, that would be great. I don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I get a busy reorder signal. No big deal. They definitely have a good idea, in the fact that it works, doesn't have too many problems with firewalls, and is not server reliant. But keeping it closed is preventing a lot of people from joining them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040407/ec44155d/attachment.htm
It cant be that hard to do considering Siemens are offering a cordless handset that can connect to skype. I guess it's just a matter of bridging the 2 together. ________________________________ From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hall Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2004 7:20 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype I guess I didn't place that part of my message in the correct context. Presence is very handy, and I would like to see the functionality added to Asterisk. What I meant by my comment you quoted below, is that if I could attach my Asterisk server to the Skype network, I would not care if I had their presence services. That is a part of the functionality I would be willing to do without if they opened their protocol. It goes back to my original point: If they want to keep part of their protocol closed, that is fine, but release the most basic part of it: the voice communication. Jeremy ________________________________ From: Dean Collins [mailto:dean@collins.net.pr] Sent: Wednesday, April 07, 2004 2:42 PM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype I'm going to leave most of what you said alone, I understand you point and it's your point to make. However I will make a small comment about "I don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I get a busy reorder signal. No big deal". Presence based information is the biggest 'seller' in the IP PBX market at the moment, being able to tell what/where a person is certainly driving a lot of sales through my door. Cheers, Dean -----Original Message----- From: asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com [mailto:asterisk-users-admin@lists.digium.com] On Behalf Of Jeremy Hall Sent: Thursday, 8 April 2004 3:29 AM To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] FW: pda skype I don't have a PocketPC PDA, mine is Palm. But regardless, I don't see what all the "Hype" is with "Skype." It is a closed protocol and highly platform-restricted product. Sure the concept of a peer-to-peer phone network is interesting, but if not everyone can connect to it, what is the point? If they want to keep certain features under their control so that they can eventually charge for it, then by all means do so. But if they would release the basic protocol specs, so that others can access the network in general, they would see many more users. I for one am not going to run yet another soft phone and/or IM client on my system just to connect to yet another phone network. A friend of mine and I tried it when it first came out, and it worked about as well as FWD, or IAXTel, or Firefly, or... You get the point. Now if I could attach my Asterisk server to it and be able to make and receive simple voice calls with other users, that would be great. I don't need hotlist functionality, if I dial their number and they aren't on, I get a busy reorder signal. No big deal. They definitely have a good idea, in the fact that it works, doesn't have too many problems with firewalls, and is not server reliant. But keeping it closed is preventing a lot of people from joining them. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.digium.com/pipermail/asterisk-users/attachments/20040407/d4e074e0/attachment.htm
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