asterisk users - Jul 2003 - Asterisk on Cygwin?

> Hey all,
> 
> quick question: does asterisk work okay in a Cygwin environment?
>
> I want to install it on my cygwin setup for local testing/demoing and
save
> me the hassle of using a pure linux machine........
I had suggested to the fellow asking about running Asterisk in VMWare
(It won't work BTW) that cygwin or mingw compilation might be possible
and , in fact, feasible to use for a small IP-only setup.
> As long as it doesn't take a huge huge performance hit from running
out of
> Cygwin, then I'll have a go there for a start
First, you won't have zaptel timings from hardware on windows, so things
like musiconhold and meetme will be out of the question. I suppose you
could write something similar to zaprtc for windows if you really felt
like squeezing your brain out your ears.

Cygwin itself won't be the problem speed wise, as it is essentially
providing native calls directly to the application, but I would suggest
a couple things:

1) Find a way to set the thread priority for the asterisk processes
high. I believe that you will probably have to write some code specific
to Cygwin to do this. Normal priority execution on Win32 will probably
not be good enough even for the transcoders and whatnot to get packets
in and out in a timely fashon.

2) Please share any experiences you have with this project. I never
intend to run asterisk on Win32 personally, but have been interested in
seeing if it's possible for fun/hack value.

John

Hey all,

quick question: does asterisk work okay in a Cygwin environment?

I want to install it on my cygwin setup for local testing/demoing and save
me the hassle of using a pure linux machine........

As long as it doesn't take a huge huge performance hit from running out of
Cygwin, then I'll have a go there for a start

confirmation appreciated!
thanks



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Is the hassle in running it or setting it up?

This gets back to my interest in a CD to boot and install a "basic"
system on a hard drive.

Something like a 2 line 4 station version and then a single T1, 4 station, 2
line.

This is why there is a users list and a developers list.
As a user, I just want a CD with typical config ready to go.
As a developer, I want to play with and tweak everything, including the OS.

Others are asking for a GUI or web interface.  There's a place for all of
this.

Look at what's involved in getting started:
You either have to download 600+MB Linux, install, compile, etc. Or run out and
buy a Linux version and install, compile, etc.  Now for most of us this is not a
big problem.  But, just look at the time envolved in setting up a couple of
266mz boxes to play and test with.

Put an ISO on the site and watch hardware sales fly...

And then watch the "consultants" market grow.  There will be posts
like:  "...well I bought the hardware, installed, it works but I need
xxxyyy, can any one log into my system and program this thing?..."


James Taylor
jltaylor@metrotel.net
903-793-1953


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: "Chris Earle \(CBL\)" <cearle@cbltech.ca>
Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2003 02:23:12 -0400
>Hey all,
>
>quick question: does asterisk work okay in a Cygwin environment?
>
>I want to install it on my cygwin setup for local testing/demoing and save
>me the hassle of using a pure linux machine........
>
>As long as it doesn't take a huge huge performance hit from running out
of
>Cygwin, then I'll have a go there for a start
>
>confirmation appreciated!
>thanks
>
>
>
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Thanks for your enthuastic response.

There's this Linux project out there for 802.11 at:
www.station-server.com
They have figured out how to make this type of distribution package work.

Don't get me wrong, Asterisk seems to have just about everything from a
feature standpoint.  The open source concept is one that I support.  We run
FreeBSD for routers and I love it.

You are absolutely correct about the need to learn about Linux distributions and
installers.  Most people don't and some find it too difficult (I suppose
that they are the ones who should stick to Windows?).

Hardware costs?  I guess these guys that have a hardware cost problem  have
never priced a Dialogic 240xx/T1 or the quad card. Used single T1 Dialogic cards
are $1100.

*** The digium hardware offerings are the best price that I've seen for any
solution. ***



---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
From: Steven Critchfield <critch@basesys.com>
Reply-To: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com
Date: 16 Jul 2003 09:14:06 -0500
>On Wed, 2003-07-16 at 09:10, jltaylor wrote:
>> Is the hassle in running it or setting it up?
>> 
>> This gets back to my interest in a CD to boot and install a
"basic" system on a hard drive.
>> 
>> Something like a 2 line 4 station version and then a single T1, 4
station, 2 line.
>> 
>> This is why there is a users list and a developers list.
>> As a user, I just want a CD with typical config ready to go.
>> As a developer, I want to play with and tweak everything, including the
OS.
>
>But there is _NO_ typical config. This is enough of a problem. Plus
>there is no need to host an ISO of the OS and cost digium money in
>bandwidth that other people are more than willing to do. The maintaining
>of a OS ISO is immense and best left to other projects. In fact the only
>thing really needed is for someone to set up a nightly build and package
>of asterisk into the couple of different package formats and make it
>available to the world.
>
>> Others are asking for a GUI or web interface.  There's a place for
all of this.
>> 
>> Look at what's involved in getting started:
>> You either have to download 600+MB Linux, install, compile, etc. Or
>> run out and buy a Linux version and install, compile, etc.  Now for
>> most of us this is not a big problem.  But, just look at the time
>> envolved in setting up a couple of 266mz boxes to play and test with.
>
>See you need to learn about other distros and installers. I know that
>Mandrake and RH offer network installs, and debian shouldn't be
>installed any other way. I'm only commenting on debians network install
>because I know it, but you only download 28 megs of files and then only
>what you are going to install after that. Total download for an asterisk
>machine should be under 150 megs.
>
>> Put an ISO on the site and watch hardware sales fly...
>
>Do you think the ISO will change all these VoIP only users into hardware
>users? If you listen to the comments from them, it is a cost issue
>mostly on the hardware, not the software. No amount of software bundling
>is going to change the budget of a user.
>
>> And then watch the "consultants" market grow.  There will be
posts
>> like:  "...well I bought the hardware, installed, it works but I
need
>> xxxyyy, can any one log into my system and program this thing?..."
>
>I doubt this. The consultants market will be more of the kind like VCCH
>is doing which is going out to a site and saying, "We can provide you
>this, that, and these other things all for a price under that quote you
>have in your hands now." The difference here is that most users that
>already found their way here and went ahead with a purchase of hardware
>will either already know how to do it themselves, or are patient enough
>to wait till that feature comes forward. Those who need consultants
>usually will not be the ones we see. 
>
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