I can find nothing about the option of running Linux on Windows, i.e. your desktop would be windows with Linux running on Xen on Windows. There is no need to change Windows, there''d only need to be drivers to base a virtualized Linux on. __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> I can find nothing about the option of running Linux > on Windows, i.e. your desktop would be windows with > Linux running on Xen on Windows. > > There is no need to change Windows, there''d only need > to be drivers to base a virtualized Linux on.Hi Juergen. Your best bet is to use qemu or VMware to run a Xen-ified Linux. Both has been reported to work well - I have personal experience with running it on VMware. Cheers -- Jan Holst Jensen, Novo Nordisk A/S, Denmark _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Juergen Weber wrote:> I can find nothing about the option of running Linux > on Windows, i.e. your desktop would be windows with > Linux running on Xen on Windows. > > There is no need to change Windows, there''d only need > to be drivers to base a virtualized Linux on.Not true. The way Xen works, even the Dom0 OS needs to be modified so that it can run under the hypervisor; indeed, it needs heavier modifications than the DomUs do. While Windows will run under Xen as a DomU once hardware virtualization support is available, I would be rather suprised if it could be used as a Dom0 even then without a quite considerable amount of work. _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
On 11/8/05, Juergen Weber <weberjn@yahoo.com> wrote:> > I can find nothing about the option of running Linux > on Windows, i.e. your desktop would be windows with > Linux running on Xen on Windows.Xen itself always run on nothing but the hardware. Which is why it''s called hypervisor.> > > > > __________________________________ > Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com > > _______________________________________________ > Xen-users mailing list > Xen-users@lists.xensource.com > http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users >-- benjamin rualthanzauva _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
--- benjamin <benjaminrtz@gmail.com> wrote:> On 11/8/05, Juergen Weber <weberjn@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > I can find nothing about the option of running > Linux > > on Windows, i.e. your desktop would be windows > with > > Linux running on Xen on Windows. > > > > Xen itself always run on nothing but the hardware. > Which is why it''s called > hypervisor. >OK, then I understand. So it is linux linux hypervisor hardware while I thought it were linux-adapted to xen-win32-drivers xen-win32-drivers windows hardware as does colinux, does it? __________________________________ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
> > linux > linux > hypervisor > hardwareActually Modified Linux - called xenlinux,xenified linux Modified Linux Hypervisor - Xen Hardware More precisely domU dom0 Xen Hardware dom0 kernel image can also be used for domUs (Guests). The thing is , it''s bigger and contains unnecessary stuffs though. while I thought it were> > linux-adapted to xen-win32-drivers > xen-win32-drivers > windows > hardware > > as does colinux, does it?No idea. __________________________________> Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. > http://farechase.yahoo.com >-- benjamin rualthanzauva _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Le Mon, Nov 07, 2005 at 02:55:10PM -0800, Juergen Weber [weberjn@yahoo.com] a écrit:> I can find nothing about the option of running Linux > on Windows, i.e. your desktop would be windows with > Linux running on Xen on Windows. > > There is no need to change Windows, there''d only need > to be drivers to base a virtualized Linux on.what you want is called Colinux and has nothing to do with Xen -- Dominique Rousseau Neuronnexion, Prestataire Internet & Intranet 57, route de Paris 80000 Amiens tel: 03 22 71 61 90 - fax: 03 22 71 61 99 - http://www.neuronnexion.fr _______________________________________________ Xen-users mailing list Xen-users@lists.xensource.com http://lists.xensource.com/xen-users
Hi.
I seem that you don''t understand, and recommend reading paper.
Do you know paravirtualization?
This technique is one of means of presenting actual computer
architecture as possible for speed up.
Therefore, usually, platform is not OS , but becomes minimum control
system called VMM or hypervisor such as Xen, VMware ESX server and etc.
This is caused control of privileged operations and so on.
(Because, Control system should be strong than other system)
So, Xen is not
linux
linux
hypervisor
hardware
, but Xen is
linux (Domain-0 using dom0) linux(others using dom0 or domU)
------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------------
hypervisor
hardware
Xen is not running Linux on Linux.
( xen hypervisor can also be said such minimal linux.)
If your opinion
linux-adapted to xen-win32-drivers
xen-win32-drivers
windows
hardware
is realized, these mechanism is need, and then it is not easy like
createing xen-win32-drivers, but is equal to develop new virtualization
system (such as VMware Workstation).
I think that xen does not aim to such area.
Why do windows need to locate Windows on hardware?
I feel to that it should be able to use Windows as control domain?
(current xen can not select Windows as control domain)
Satoshi Uchida
-----Original Message-----
From: Juergen Weber [mailto:weberjn@yahoo.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 08, 2005 8:59 PM
To: benjamin
Cc: xen-users@lists.xensource.com
Subject: Re: [Xen-users] Linux on Windows
--- benjamin <benjaminrtz@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 11/8/05, Juergen Weber <weberjn@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >
> > I can find nothing about the option of running
> Linux
> > on Windows, i.e. your desktop would be windows
> with
> > Linux running on Xen on Windows.
>
>
>
> Xen itself always run on nothing but the hardware.
> Which is why it''s called
> hypervisor.
>
OK, then I understand.
So it is
linux
linux
hypervisor
hardware
while I thought it were
linux-adapted to xen-win32-drivers
xen-win32-drivers
windows
hardware
as does colinux, does it?
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