Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2. While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ? What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days. - KB
I would say that people know that 5.2 work and looking at changelogs, they don't see a real NEED to install 5.3. I personally always have the newest release though. One thing I would say to improve visibility, is making a bigger release. It took me a few days to find out that 5.3 was actually out. Maybe digg.com... Etc. ------Original Message------ From: Karanbir Singh Sender: centos-bounces at centos.org To: CentOS Mailing list ReplyTo: CentOS Mailing list Sent: Apr 6, 2009 12:32 Subject: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2. While a large number of installs would be since people already have the 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ? What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all the people downloading 5.3 these days. - KB _______________________________________________ CentOS mailing list CentOS at centos.org http://lists.centos.org/mailman/listinfo/centos Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
Karanbir Singh wrote on Mon, 06 Apr 2009 17:32:25 +0100:> What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the > fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.Point all "visible" 5.2 stuff to 5.3 and add a "if you are really looking for 5.2 and not the 5.3 follow here ..." With "visible" I mean everything that is not a sheer download location. Kai -- Kai Sch?tzl, Berlin, Germany Get your web at Conactive Internet Services: http://www.conactive.com
On Mon, Apr 6, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Karanbir Singh <mail-lists at karan.org> wrote:> Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that > there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2. > > While a large number of installs would be since people already have the > 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes > little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ? > > What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the > fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. > > I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want > the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all > the people downloading 5.3 these days. > > - KBThe centos.org page doesn't have a news section in any obvious place, and the CentOS 5 section only just has the version number updated. If someone were not following the mailing lists or missed the announcement that one day on a news site, they might not notice that 5.3 was out. It could be people downloading from links that are hard coded to 5.2. If you can see the referrer pages, that would probably help track that down (though only for http downloads). Also, even though 5.3 should be completely compatible with 5.2, it doesn't mean that IT departments believe it, or at least need to go through internal testing before changing their internal process to use 5.3.
>-----Original Message----- >From: centos-bounces at centos.org [mailto:centos-bounces at centos.org] On Behalf >Of Karanbir Singh >Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 6:32 PM >To: CentOS mailing list >Subject: [CentOS] the 5.2 loaders > >What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the >fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on.Make the announcement stand out more on centos.org maybe? Like a big banner just under the Home/Donate/Information etc-menu. That is to say, just a short blurb about the new release and a bigger font making use of a bold typeface when typing "new centos 5.3 release" and linking to the actual announcement further below. In fact, IMHO, I think the release announcement should be nearer or in the top of the page, or at least in the uppermost left column. Most read from left to right and start from the top. 8-} While he first page is very informational, it's not a wonder of readability. No offence to the webmaster(s). HTH. -- /Sorin -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: smime.p7s Type: application/x-pkcs7-signature Size: 5106 bytes Desc: not available URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20090407/00f22ae8/attachment-0002.bin>
on 4-6-2009 9:32 AM Karanbir Singh spake the following:> Just looking around at log files and other places, I noticed today that > there are still a lot of people installing and downloading 5.2. > > While a large number of installs would be since people already have the > 5.2 media - thats fine, however, new downloads for 5.2 media today makes > little sense ( to me ) - so whats going on here ? > > What can we do in order to better, faster, more visibly communicate the > fact that 5.3 is the new target most people should be focusing on. > > I cam imagine there are people with specific needs and they would want > the 5.2 media - but not a number so large, that its almost 80% of all > the people downloading 5.3 these days. > > > - KBYou have seen enough people on this list that think they are completely different versions, and they might think that 5.2 is more stable. I can't count how many times we have had to tell someone that yum update makes their system whatever the current version is. -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... Name: signature.asc Type: application/pgp-signature Size: 258 bytes Desc: OpenPGP digital signature URL: <http://lists.centos.org/pipermail/centos/attachments/20090408/340b9ac0/attachment-0002.sig>